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On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 15:00:50 -0500, Jeff Hubbs <hbbs at comcast.net> wrote:
> The attitude of this developer is something I encounter a lot, and I
> absolutely loathe it.  At the risk of sounding Cosby-esque, is this what
> we (meaning the collective breadth of the IT industry) worked so hard
> for?  I cannot understand what must go on in the minds of the people who
> promulgate, encourage, and passively accept this.
> 
> I wouldn't even like there to be a "company standard" Linux, even though
> I know that goes on all the time - there are people who just can't
> accept freedom even when it walks in the door and sits on their couch.
> Let me be clear:  standardize on STANDARDS, not PRODUCTS!!  Standardize
> on TCP/IP, SCSI, Postscript, Ethernet, PCI, ASCII, letter-size paper,
> IPSEC, NTSC, 120VAC!
> 
> Whenever vendors try to hijack a standard or create a standard that
> competes with an open one, end users lose.  The vendors sometimes win,
> but only for a while.  End users win and win for good when open
> standards work well and remain open.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 13:54, James P. Kinney III wrote:
> > On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 13:27, Brian Stanaland wrote:
> > > I installed Firefox on my work PC and surf with it exclusively.
> > > Except, of course, for the web-based applications written in-house,
> > > which do not work with Firefox.  I pointed it out to the guy who wrote
> > > it and he said..."It's a good thing IE is the 'Company Standard' so I
> > > don't need to worry about other browsers."
> >
> > At the risk of sounding lik an A&&****, your company's developer is a
> > moron. So far, every application/website I have found or developed that
> > looks and works well under Firefox, looks and works just as well under
> > IE.
> >
> > The converse is not true. There are numerous things that IE supports,
> > and bone-headed developers use (or totally moronic managment requires)
> > that have not been accepted as a web standard primarily for reasons of
> > open accessability by W3C.
> >
> > We have an abundance of youth. What we need is a fountain of smart.
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 15:42:13 -0500, Pete Hardie <pete.hardie at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > //snipped//
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I keep trying to get my work IT to realize that IE and Outlook are the
> > > > cause of 90% of their pain, but it's slow going.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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