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Bob Toxen
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-- Bob Toxen 10/03/2002
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Toxen <bob at verysecurelinux.com>
> Sent: Dec 20, 2004 3:47 PM
> To: attriel at d20boards.net, Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
> Subject: Re: [ale] Logcheck vs Logwatch
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 11:58:36AM -0500, attriel wrote:
> > > 186 messages sent is nothing. If you had been "hacked to use as a
> > > spam relay" you'd see 10,000-1,000,000 messages sent. Keep an eye
> > > on the logs (preferably using Logcheck instead of LogWatch), but I
> > > don't see this as evidence of any problems.
>
> > How is Logcheck better than Logwatch? I'm setting up a system with a
> > loghost machine (w/o external access; it accepts ONLY syslog UDP packets,
> > on an internal network) and I was looking at logwatch and logcheck (and
> > swatch), and decided that logwatch seemed to be a better mechanism for
> > getting information and statistics for at least basic filtering, and
> > figured anything "unexpected" could be then tracked more manually
> I use log file monitoring programs for security monitoring and don't
> really care about statistics as there are better indications of compromise.
>
> After using both, especially my enhanced Logcheck a LOT, my opinion is that
> LogWatch tells me things that I don't care about, does not explain what it
> sees, and fails to tell me important things.
>
> The ONLY value to LogWatch, IMO, is that it gives stats on how many times
> someone tries and fails to log in and thus likely is a hacker. Logcheck
> usually will allow me to see this two though it does not give a count of
> a given IP trying to crack a given account name. Of course, I've
> substantially enhanced Logcheck for my use.
>
> > Is logcheck (that's the logsentry one right?) really better?
>
> > --attriel
>
> Bob Toxen
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