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- <li><em>date</em>: Fri Dec 24 04:23:37 2004</li>
- <li><em>from</em>: scherrey at proteus-tech.com (Benjamin Scherrey)</li>
- <li><em>in-reply-to</em>: <<a href="msg00820.html">[email protected]</a>></li>
- <li><em>subject</em>: Ubuntu Distro Discussions (Re: [ale] linux recommendations)</li>
remarkable,
Ben Scherrey
12/23/2004 11:26:09 PM, aaron <aaron at pd.org> wrote:
>Dear Ubuntu Linux:
>
>I am an active member of a well recognized Linux user group in Atlanta,
>Georgia, USA. Several weeks ago I discovered and, based on your site
>information, recommended your Linux distro offerings in response to
>discussions of Linux "accessibility" features on the group's mailing list
>[archives and subscription available at <<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ale.org";>http://www.ale.org</a>>].
>
>Recently, on the same list, your distro was recommended by others as a good,
>user friendly desktop solution for new Linux users [full email below]. The
>"linux recommendations" thread renewed my curiosity, and I have downloaded
>the current Ubuntu distro with plans of doing some test installations soon.
>
>Unfortunately, the author of one of those recent recommendations also felt it
>necessary to accompany his positive technical review with unwarranted,
>politically motivated vilifications of your organization. In interests of
>open discourse and fairness, I am calling these comments to your attention,
>should you care to respond:
>
>" The organization that sponsors Ubuntu is a pack of raging America
>hating liberals. If that doesn't put you off I would recommend it. I
>personally like my Linux ideology free. "
>
>I'm afraid this kind of hate mongering, brown shirt language is tragically and
>pathetically common to the fascist, neo-conservative, Pan-American movements
>currently being suffered in our formerly respectable country. The formulaic
>"liberal" bashing construct is typical of the frequent, pre-packaged,
>exclusively partisan rants issued through supporters of the international
>terrorists who presently retain illegal control of our national government.
>On behalf of the globally respectful majority of American patriots (in whole)
>and the sane majority of Open Source community members in the Atlanta Linux
>Enthusiast group (in specific), I would like to offer our sincere apologies.
>
>While the slander is innexcusable on principle alone, a detailed review of
>your site also failed to reveal any published comments or activities that
>might remotely rationalize this unfounded attack. The sad likelyhood is that
>the divisive, political harangue you suffered is an end product of the
>elitist, radical right wing propaganda machine that has been poisoning our
>national language and conscience through corporate financed media mills and
>"think tanks" for nearly 40 years now. By design, the most compliant victims
>of this incessant, insidious droning have become automated Pavlovian attack
>dogs, launching partisan, dogmatic, and reactionary hate rhetoric assaults
>when ever and where ever civic morality, civil liberty, respect for
>community, pursuit of peace or humanitarian ideals are being prooven,
>published or discussed.
>
>We hope that you will forgive the unwarranted vilification of your admirable
>Open Source endeavors from within a kindred community, and will also try to
>understand the true source and motivation of such fascist political attacks.
>Like AIDS victims, most of the radical minority of Americans who spread this
>disease of nationalist arrogance are not even aware of their deadly illness.
>While opinion polls indicate that some 80% of the informed global community
>shares our majority disdain of an arrogant, totalitarian and imperialist
>regime, we hope that you also share the common sense not to confuse evil
>heads of state with the innocent peoples corrupted by them, forced to endure
>them, or murdered because of them.
>
>For myself, I admire your organization's philosophical foundations and feel
>you have chosen a highly appropriate, definitive and representative banner
>for a GNU Open Source Linux distribution. I hope your group and affiliates
>will continue to openly acknowledge commitment to community as the integral
>foundation of all worthwhile, uplifting and spiritually fulfilling human
>endeavors.
>
>peace
>(Because the only respectable nation is a nation at peace.)
>aaron
>
>
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>---------- Forwarded Message ----------
>
>Subject: Re: [ale] linux recommendations
>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:57:15 -0500
>From: Mark Wright <mpwright at speedfactory.net>
>To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>
>I second that recommendation.
>
> I have been very impressed with Ubuntu. It is based on Debian and
>uses apt which I think is great. I haven't used too many of the latest
>distros as a desktop (the last was FC2 and I use mandrake 9.2 at
>home... should upgrade) but I like the way it works with USB memory and
>disks. I have to su umount to get rid of a USB key device on Mandrake
>and had the same problem on FC2. You don't want to have to explain how
>to enter a root command in a terminal over the phone if you don't have
>to. :-)
>
>The organization that sponsors Ubuntu is a pack of raging America
>hating liberals. If that doesn't put you off I would recommend it. I
>personally like my Linux ideology free.
>
>I have several extra copies of their disto package. I'll mail you a
>copy if you like.
>
>Mark
>
>
>On Dec 22, 2004, at 11:54 AM, Kevin Carstensen wrote:
>>
>>
>> You could show them Ubuntu. Once they're used to it at home they
>> can have a LiveCD to take the linux they know with them to use and
>> show. Nice clean Debian system. It's "hip" too, I think young people
>> would like it.
>> -- kevin
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