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Now we need to get the Governor to cancel or alter the Windows "secure"
voting boxes for civilians.

Bob Toxen
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On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 02:30:37PM -0500, aaron wrote:
&gt; On Thursday 05 February 2004 22:01, ChangingLINKS.com wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt; &quot;Internet voting presents far too many opportunities for hackers or even 
&gt; &gt; &gt; terrorists to interfere with fair and accurate voting, potentially in ways 
&gt; &gt; &gt; impossible to detect,&quot; the experts said in a statement Jan. 21. &quot;Such 
&gt; &gt; &gt; tampering could alter election results, particularly in close contests.&quot;
&gt; &gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; &gt; Seeing this simply stated in the mainstream media is good news,
&gt; &gt; &gt; even if the military is being so stubbornly ignorant that they are still
&gt; &gt; &gt; considering implementing some form of internet voting.
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; That's precisely why I posted it. Seeing it is a &quot;good sign&quot; for
&gt; &gt;  that reason, 
&gt; &gt; or it could be a &quot;bad sign&quot; that it will give voting systems a reason to &quot;go 
&gt; &gt; back&quot; to the way it was before (for years to come).
&gt; 
&gt; Judging from the research results, &quot;going back&quot; would be actually be a great 
&gt; leap forward. 
&gt; 
&gt; Recent comprehensive, real world evaluations of voting systems 
&gt; [ <a  rel="nofollow" href="http://www.vote.caltech.edu/Reports/2001report.html";>http://www.vote.caltech.edu/Reports/2001report.html</a> ]
&gt; show paper ballots with human tabulation can average an error rate of less 
&gt; than 1%. Adding an electronic scanner system for tabulating paper ballots 
&gt; kicks that rate up to about 1.5%. Punch card systems hover around 2.5% error 
&gt; rates, a number which, coincidentally, is also the best case result for all 
&gt; the currently deployed electronic and touch screen systems.
&gt; 
&gt; So, after our various bomb and bankrupt governments dump several billion of 
&gt; our tax dollars into the pockets of a pack of technological corporate carpet 
&gt; baggers, the absolute best system we will be able to hope for will be one 
&gt; only slightly worse than what we already had, and that's only guaranteed in 
&gt; the rare places where electronic systems are implemented with thorough 
&gt; auditing and public tabulation.
&gt; 
&gt; Like I said before, we can hope that stories like this will wake more people 
&gt; up to the serious fraud being perpetrated against them. Any electronic voting 
&gt; system that lacks full auditing, public accounting,  open source code and 
&gt; voter verified paper trails is demonstrably flawed will be highly susceptible 
&gt; to both external tampering and internal corruption.
&gt; 
&gt; peace
&gt; aaron
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; 
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