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I think I may have read the same posts, if they were the ones referenced from 
the list here a few weeks ago...

What I got out of those email archives was that Torvald's issues are not with 
the kernel SCSI code quality, but with the ATAPI <> SCSI mapping hack that 
cdrecord relies on. It's that part of the equation that he would like to see 
depricated.

peace
aaron

>  Alan Cox took 
> over the IDE subsystem to help clean it up.  I wish I had 
> some time to play with 2.6 and see if it is true that direct 
> ATAPI support of CD burning is included so you aren't forced 
> to use the SCSI code.  I am not saying the current code in 
> 2.4 is bad.  It is confusing though to have to fight with 
> apps that want the ATAPI interface versus apps that want the 
> SCSI interface for the same physical hardware.  I can't wait 
> to get into 2.6 where alot of this was supposed to be dealt 
> with.  I don't know how far the changes got though.
> Dow
> 
> 
> Mike Panetta wrote:
> > And as an addendum to this I also personally think that everything
> > that supports a SCSI command set (or subset thereof) should show
> > up as a SCSI device, regardless of what kind of physical interface
> > it has.  It makes perfect sense to me that USB storage devices show 
> > up as SCSI devices, and that Firewire storage devices show up as
> > SCSI devices, so why the heck should IDE storage devices not show
> > up as SCSI devices?  They implement the command set, so why not
> > make it easier on ourselves and have everything be SCSI?
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Panetta <ahuitzot at mindspring.com>
> > Sent: Jan 11, 2004 4:03 PM
> > To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
> > Subject: Re: [ale] Atapi cdrecord?
> > 
> > Read this:
> > 
> > 
<a  rel="nofollow" href="http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/man/README/README.ATAPI";>http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/man/README/README.ATAPI</a>
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; And decide for yourself.
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; Personally I have no problems with the ide-scsi &quot;fun&quot;...
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; Mike
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt; &gt; From: &quot;Robert L. Harris&quot; &lt;Robert.L.Harris at rdlg.net&gt;
&gt; &gt; Sent: Jan 11, 2004 11:43 AM
&gt; &gt; To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts &lt;ale at ale.org&gt;
&gt; &gt; Subject: [ale] Atapi cdrecord?
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; Ok, I remember a conversation about burning and the ide-scsi fun.  I
&gt; &gt; have a Knoppix CD I want to to burn, a Sony IDE cdrom on HCD and a pile
&gt; &gt; of blanks.  How do you burn using the ATAPI/IDE interface instead of the
&gt; &gt; ide-scsi fun?  Yeah, I'm just curious if it's easier.
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; :wq!
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