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On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 12:22, Stuffed Crust wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 11:41:47AM -0500, Fulton Green wrote:
> > The main takeaway of the article seems to be that the next shift in
> > *onshore* employment needs to be to the areas of creativity and
> > innovation, since we still have a perceived advantage in those realms
> > whereas the IT and other BPO activities offshort tend to focus solely on
> > the refinement of an innovation or concept (a la the Japanese car
> > industry).
> 
> There's only one problem with that idea.  For people to have those
> higher-end design/creative jobs, they have to spend their time in the
> trenches too.  You must first learn the trade to become creative in it.  
> You know, the whole "learn to walk before you can run" thing.  You just 
> don't pick up a paintbrush and end up with the Mona Lisa.  It takes 
> years of practice and work before you may become a master.
> 
> Would you trust a "software architect" that's never written any code; 
> who has no significant experience?   
> 
> So how are we to get experience, when to get jobs we need experience? 
> From the low-to-mid-level jobs that don't exist any more?  What do we do
> when the current generation of "experienced" people eventually retires? 
> Who will perform the next round of designing and "creativity"?  The
> people who do the low-to-mid-level jobs today, that's who.  And they'll
> leave new low-level jobs behind as they move up the ladder, for new
> people to gain experience.  And those people will become the following
> generation of creators and designers.
> 
> We're not just talking about the outsourcing/offshoring of miscellaneous
> programming here -- we're talking about companies outsourcing R&D work. 
> We're talking about companies outsourcing their *core business*.  US
> corporations are becoming little more than sales & marketing shells.  
> What will happen is that slowly we'll become the "outsourced marketing" 
> firms, then we'll get cut out of the loop entirely once they wake up and 
> realize that they don't need us.
> 
> Experience is analogous to education.  And what's happening is that it's
> been turned into just another expense to be minimized, rather than as
> the investment it really is.   Corprations can't see past their current 
> quarter, much less plan years in advance.
> 
> Let me take this opportunity to plug Issac Asimov's excellent short 
> story, _Profession_.  It's well worth the read, and quite relevant to 
> the matter at hand.
> 
&gt; <a  rel="nofollow" href="http://www.abelard.org/asimov.htm";>http://www.abelard.org/asimov.htm</a>
&gt;  
&gt;  - Pizza



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