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Nobody is criticizing the list maintainer. At issue is whether or not the 
software we use makes it easy for our email addresses to be picked up.

2.
> I carefully use my email address and only get a couple
> spams a week.  I don't think this list is much of a resource to the
> spammer scum. 

The list was a source of spam. 
To prove it, I simply put "changinglinks atlanta" in Yahoo.
The first page that comes up is:
<a  rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ale.org/archive/ale/ale-2003-03/msg00502.html";>http://www.ale.org/archive/ale/ale-2003-03/msg00502.html</a>
which clearly &quot;gives up&quot; the email address &quot;retief  @  larp.com&quot;
So in the past every message that we post would make it very easy for email 
harvesting programs to collect our email addresses. As I said before, the ALE 
list comes up for practically anything related to Atlanta. (Want some 
&quot;atlanta emails&quot;? just go to Yahoo, and surf to #25 with your harvesting 
software ;) ) That is how easy it was.

3.
Today, using the same test, the second URL I got was:
<a  rel="nofollow" href="http://ike.room17.com/pipermail/ale/20031230/004813.html";>http://ike.room17.com/pipermail/ale/20031230/004813.html</a>
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;To my suprise, the email addresses were NOT so easy to get. 
&gt;&gt;&gt;
Email addresses are now changed like so: &lt;stephen at touset.org&gt;
. . . and instead of being linked to as an email address, the URL points to
<a  rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale";>http://www.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a>

4.
Unfortunately, as I kept surfing the archives (like an email harvesting 
program would) I was able to find clear email addresses (even this year) see:
<a  rel="nofollow" href="http://ale.org/archive/ale/ale-2004-01/msg01250.html";>http://ale.org/archive/ale/ale-2004-01/msg01250.html</a>

5.
The point is that we need to make our entire system uniform with the 
&quot;ike.room17.com&quot; email handling.


&gt; I would like to thank the list maintainer for their (unpaid) service and
&gt; good job.

Ditto.
-- 
Wishing you Happiness, Joy and Laughter,
Drew Brown
<a  rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ChangingLINKS.com";>http://www.ChangingLINKS.com</a>


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