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- <li><em>date</em>: Fri Jan 30 07:26:07 2004</li>
- <li><em>from</em>: esoteric at 3times25.net (Geoffrey)</li>
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You've confused two definitions:
hacker:
>
> a) Study the last 20 years of bind, sendmail, telnet, and login, and
> note the common and different weaknesses and strengths in each. Look at
> current software for similarities. Write a few valuable new programs for
> others to test. Learn at least 5 languages. Contribute at least 1000
> lines (each) to 5 different open-source projects. Start learning at
> least 3 hardware platforms, and hand-solder your own boxes and create a
> new platform, device, or machine. Write for several publications, attend
> Usenix and friends. Trumpet your abilities.
cracker:
>
> b) Rent lots of movies like "Hackers" or "Sneakers" where it looks more
> interesting than code folk reading and writing code. Download and run
> someone else's software to "hack". Go to 2600 meetings, type poorly, and
> brag about things that will get you put in jail. Wear lots of black, and
> get a cool online handle like "DarkSlayer2k". Change someone's web page
> and trumpet it like it's the second coming. Help out a friend with a
> broken hard drive, brag about their inability. Attend DefCon
> religiously. Play lots of 3D games. Hide.
--
Until later, Geoffrey Registered Linux User #108567
Building secure systems inspite of Microsoft
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