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- <li><em>date</em>: Mon Mar 15 17:56:06 2004</li>
- <li><em>from</em>: runman at speedfactory.net (Greg)</li>
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Bottom line: Play with fire and you *will* get burned.
Greg
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:ale-bounces";>mailto:ale-bounces</a> at ale.org]On Behalf Of Dow
> Hurst
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 12:23 PM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [ale] "What's So Bad About Microsoft?"
>
>
> You just don't get much anymore from closed source without paying
> thru the
> nose compared to the offerings of open source. We know that MS
> is security
> wise much less secure and with constant large dangerous holes
> being found.
> That will not end for a long time. The source is available under
> Linux while
> costs thru the nose for closed source. The motives of closed
> source companies
> tend to be selfish while open source projects are selfless or
> "less selfish"
> in nature. Software installation is much more advanced in the
> open source
> world over closed source. So those are reasonable facts to use
> and not very
> subjective. Closed source has focused useability while open
> source tends to
> have more options and ways to combine the software with other
> open source or
> closed source software. Disrupting standards is a classic MS ploy. Take
> TCP/IP as an example and show how Samba recovered the world from
> MS's poor
> implementation of it.
>
> The past treatment of companies joining in agreements with
> MicroSoft in the
> past would be good to note. The MS sharky attitude has destroyed many
> companies with promising futures who thought they were getting a break by
> working with MS instead of competing. After MS got control, they were
> compromised or broken up. Specifically, I remember some company with a
> product for color matching or some kind of publishing control
> software that
> had an agreement that MS would pay a license for their software.
> Within a
> year of the deal, MS had gotten enough info to create their own in house
> version and destroyed the original company. It's too long ago for me to
> remember the company name or product. Oh well, MS has had a long
> history of
> being Borg like.
> Dow
>
>
> Jeff Hubbs wrote:
> > On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 05:50, Geoffrey wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I would suggest providing facts such as when they tampered with
> >>evidence. For example, when they attempted to demonstrate that
> removing
> >>IE from Windows slowed it down dramatically, the did so with a video.
> >>During this presentation, it was noted that the before and after videos
> >>were tainted in that they were presented from different computers.
> >
> >
> > Falsifying evidence at trial was one of the things I had thought of, but
> > that's really secondary to the main point that I would want to make,
> > which centers on their being illegal monopolists. I can't really hit on
> > little specific differences because my likely audience won't really have
> > an appreciation.
> >
> > One thing that I sometimes say, at risk of sounding arrogant, is that I
> > actually promoted and pioneered the use of WinNT at two places of work
> > but that after working with Linux for so long, Windows just seems quaint
> > to me now. And, it does. All I've seen in the past year or two of
> > Windows machines makes me wonder, why would anyone want this? Where's
> > GIMP, GhostView, ImageMagick, cdrecord, Octave? Where are my compilers
> > and interpreters?
> >
> > - Jeff
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