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For the church, I would suggest a hd (mirror #1), a caddy (mirror #2), and
samba for a backup server.  Backup every nite with a cron job.  That is the
cheapest, except for perhaps a cd burner.

For your wife and son, I would suggest building a box with a lot of hd's,
software RAID 5, and running samba.  On Friday nite have your wife leave it
running, and use a MS program (or samba's backup) to backup her full disk to
the RAID box.  On Sat, have your son's laptop do this.  I would be very wary
of MS Backup - it is not dependable, somthing to do with keeping the
original config file for the backup.  Norton Ghost or something else is more
dependable (voice of experience).

I keep my servers pretty much -stable OpenBSD xxx (xxx = latest version)
with only few changes (why I like OpenBSD - secure by default). So a version
upgrade is possible with very little to do, with the exception of the
mailserver, which runs qmail.

Well, good luck and tell us what you end up using.

Greg




> -----Original Message-----
&gt; From: ale-bounces at ale.org [<a  rel="nofollow" href="mailto:ale-bounces";>mailto:ale-bounces</a> at ale.org]On Behalf Of
&gt; griffisb at bellsouth.net
&gt; Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 8:22 AM
&gt; To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
&gt; Subject: Re: RE: [ale] Low-end tapedrives for SOHO environment
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; From: &quot;Greg&quot; &lt;runman at speedfactory.net&gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I have experienced this firsthand.  Since I have more programs
&gt; than I would
&gt; &gt; care to admit, it takes a several weekends to get my main box
&gt; even close to
&gt; &gt; what it was before I have had to reinstall.  If you are running
&gt; a stock box
&gt; &gt; with documented changes then perhaps it &quot;might&quot; not be so bad.  But I
&gt; &gt; suspect that most folks (especially IT types) have their main
&gt; PC's full of
&gt; &gt; little programs, links, scripts, etc etc that need to be backed
&gt; up. A full
&gt; &gt; backup is a whole lot less painful than trying to recreate a
&gt; box.  After you
&gt; &gt; have updated, upgraded, and patched a box it's even worse.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Greg
&gt;
&gt; Thanks Greg, and also (back a post) thanks to the guy that
&gt; suggested looking at the TAO of
&gt; backups. For home use, my desktop is pretty much vanilla (I
&gt; clobbered myself too many times
&gt; building from CVS and doing other things I'm just not ready for)
&gt; - so for me, bone stock SuSE
&gt; 8.2, with the exception of Samba server tossed in.
&gt;
&gt; My wife's and son's laptop was stock WinXP, but now has too many
&gt; things thrown in. If I could
&gt; convince her to lose the MS stuff, I'd much prefer going with a
&gt; good desktop Linux solution (with
&gt; CD's for backup). Don't think that'll happen.
&gt;
&gt; My work laptop is dualboot RH9 and Win2K with WAY too many
&gt; different apps, and way too
&gt; much data all over the place. I do complete backups, but haven't
&gt; had to restore yet. We'll see
&gt; how that goes (the disk is going, I have a new disk - I'll bring
&gt; it in to the office to see if they can
&gt; duplicate and restore. If not, well - the backups might come in handy).
&gt;
&gt; The sticky part comes in when I think of doing backups at church.
&gt; The PC's are used by multiple
&gt; people, and have been used for several years. Some original CDs
&gt; (and licenses) are around. A
&gt; lot just can no longer be located. That would be a bear to sort
&gt; through the desktops.
&gt;
&gt; But whatever I decide to do for the church, I will first do at
&gt; home - decide on a backup solution.
&gt; Do backups. Nuke a PC and rebuild it.
&gt;
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