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- <li><em>date</em>: Tue Mar 30 18:01:10 2004</li>
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On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 13:47, John Mills wrote:
> ALErs -
>
> On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 Sigmascape1 at cs.com wrote:
>
> > Not good.
> >
> > Vendor slammed for 'selling' patches
> > <a rel="nofollow" href="http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105_2-5181825.html?tag=zdfd.newsfeed">http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105_2-5181825.html?tag=zdfd.newsfeed</a>
>
> <soapbox> As I understand it (&IANAL!!), a vendor delivering software
> under the GPL must make available to those to whom the software was
> delivered, the sources of the delivered software for the subsequent three
> years. This can be done at the time of sale (i.e., including a copy of the
> source with the purchased product), by releasing them to a public
> repository, or (one supposes) by some other mechanism.
>
> I do not understand this to imply a responsibility to provide either
> sources or executables of product upgrades to purchasers of the
> pre-upgrade versions of the product. It is also quite usual to release
> GPL'd software under a disclaimer of responsibility for product defects:
> often it is not guaranteed to do anything, good or bad.
>
> Whatever subsequent responsibilities of vendor to purchaser and vice-versa
> should as a matter of good practice be agreed at the time of sale. (Will
> anyone who thinks they understand Microsoft's EULA please stand up.
> Anyone??)
>
> We are left with a business decision as to which customers should receive
> updates, patches, phone support, etc. Some companies will give a free
> product upgrade if you purchase the superceeded version within a
> specified interval or the new release's issue. (Borland has offered a
> 90-day window in which such upgrades could be purchased for a nominal
> $10.00 -- I don't know if the policy is still in force or which products
> it may cover.)
>
> By the way, are "RealSecure" or "BlackIce" in any way covered by the GPL?
> That would surprise me. If so, any customer receiving the updates could
> make them freely available to anyone they chose, and ISS would have no
> legal recourse. The GPL _does_ work like that: even if you pay for GPL
> released materials, you can give them away (provided _you_ meet the other
> release conditions of the GPL).
> </soapbox>
>
> Now - a quick grab for the trusty asbestos gloves and welding goggles!
>
> Cheers.
> - John Mills
> john.m.mills at alum.mit.edu
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