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- <li><em>date</em>: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:32:31 -0400 (EDT)</li>
- <li><em>from</em>: tfreeman at intel.digichem.net (tfreeman at intel.digichem.net)</li>
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We bought my wife a diesel Dasher wagon years ago. Just under 40 mpg city,
mid40 mpg highway. Fairly nice vehicle unless you decided to take on
mountans. That car was a little scared of mountains... Also deep cold
could be a challenge getting started, but we only risked that once that I
recall.
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Matt Magee wrote:
> I used to drive a Chevy LUV 4x4 (Isuzu P'UP) with a 2.2 4cyl diesel that
> only made 50hp when new. I'm sure it was down a few ponies with 200k +
> miles. Got between 40-50 mpg. Sure, it would barely run 65 mph, but I
> have a lot of patience when money is involved. :) If I ever find one
> that hasn't rusted into oblivion, I will snap it up (my last one was so
> rusty it literally broke in half on an overpass). The only time the
> lack of acceleration is a problem for me is merging from entrance ramps
> and even then I'll just borrow the shoulder if I need a little more room.
>
> The best way to acheive better efficiency in internal-combustion engines
> is with long strokes, compact combustion chambers, high compression
> ratios and relatively low-speed operation. This makes Diesels ideal.
> Now, add a turbo and you get the bonus of being able to adjust the power
> output as needed without any appreciable economy loss. No need for a
> second turbo, just size the single turbo appropriately and let the
> wastegate handle the rest.
>
> I favor a minimalist approach for my machines though it is difficult to
> find others with a similar opinion. I can see the writing on the wall
> when "economy" cars cost 15k and up and get worse fuel ecomomy than ever.
>
> Anyway, that's the end of my ex auto mechanic rant. I'll be quiet now.
>
> Warren Myers wrote:
>
> > Well, we've also tromped on the idea of getting cars with 50hp and
> > 0-60 times of 20 seconds. The Smart car achieves its stellar mileage
> > with a teeny engine, and really low acceleration times.
> >
> > The cool thing to do to one, in my mind, would be to strap a second
> > turbo on the top and see if we can't get more horses out ot it. OTOH,
> > for in-city driving, and low-traffic highway driving, the low
> > acceleration times isn't a big deal. It's just the constant
> > get-on/get-off driving of commuting on short highway stretches where
> > it would suck.
> >
> > WMM
> >
> > On 8/17/05, *Matt Magee* <mattslistmail at earthlink.net
> > <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:mattslistmail";>mailto:mattslistmail</a> at earthlink.net>> wrote:
> >
> > I still find it interesting that in the early 90's you could buy at
> > least three cars that acheived around 60 mpg (Civic VX, CRX HF and the
> > Metro XFI). Now to get 60 mpg, the best we can get is the smart,
> > which
> > is far smaller and not really inexpensive either.
> >
> > Is this the best the world's engineers can do?
> >
> > Grant Robertson wrote:
> >
> > >I so wish the smart would come to the US.. They're becoming kinda
> > >popular in Canada. Neat little buggers, and suprisingly roomy.
> > >
> > >-G
> > >
> > >
> > >On 8/16/05, James P. Kinney III <jkinney at localnetsolutions.com
> > <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:jkinney";>mailto:jkinney</a> at localnetsolutions.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>I'm partial to
> > >> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.zapworld.com/cars/smartCar.asp";>http://www.zapworld.com/cars/smartCar.asp</a>
> > >>for geek-fleet cars.
> > >>
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