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Jerald M. Sheets jr.
Sr. UNIX Systems Administrator
McKesson, Inc.
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On May 17, 2005, at 4:21 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote:

> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 15:57 -0400, Chris Ricker wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 17 May 2005, Jim Popovitch wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 14:25 -0400, Chris Ricker wrote:
>>>
>>>> They can't do "sudo mkfs /dev/hda8" (unless you misconfigured  
>>>> sudo).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Misconfigured? Or just configured for easy use (NOPASSWD: ALL)?
>>>
>>
>> Like I said, misconfigured.
>>
>
> I say easy to use.  Again, NOPASSWD on a server makes good sense,  
> but on
> my laptop?  Come on.  Imaging having to sudo (and give a password)  
> every
> time you wanted to:
>
>          dial a modem
>          burn a cd
>          connect to a wireless hotspot
>          use bluetooth
>          print
>          modify /etc/hosts
>          delete old system logs
>          add a new user so a friend can log in
>          play a game like quake
>          etc
>
> Some of those things don't presently require sudo, this is due to the
> use of setuid.  HOWEVER, if you believe the diatribe about running as
> root on desktop PCs, you need to also believe the diatribe of using
> setuid.  SOo, wholistically you can either have a productive easy  
> to use
> PC or you can have a pain-in-the-a**-to-use PC that is "more" secure.
> YMMV.
>
> -Jim P.
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