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At 02:25 PM 9/29/2005, you wrote:
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&gt;Today's Topics:
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&gt;    1. Re: X Font Server (xfs) problem (Roger Hammons)
&gt;    2. Re: keyboard works in bios/grub but not after boot? (Joe Knapka)
&gt;    3. Installation of SUSE 9.3 advice (Dow Hurst)
&gt;    4. OT: Neat! (Robert L. Harris)
&gt;    5. Re: OT: Neat! (James P. Kinney III)
&gt;    6. Re: OT: Neat! (Randy Ramsdell)
&gt;    7. Re: OT: Neat! (James P. Kinney III)
&gt;    8. Re: OT: Neat! (Michael Still)
&gt;    9. OT:What is this? (Scott Castaline)
&gt;
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&gt;
&gt;Message: 1
&gt;Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:56:52 -0400
&gt;From: Roger Hammons &lt;egorra at attglobal.net&gt;
&gt;Subject: Re: [ale] X Font Server (xfs) problem
&gt;To: Michael Trausch &lt;fd0man at gmail.com&gt;, ale at ale.org
&gt;Message-ID: &lt;433AE774.31CEB4A0 at attglobal.net&gt;
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&gt;
&gt;Mike and All:
&gt;
&gt;That's it!  Worked perfectly!
&gt;
&gt;I changed the permissions on /tmp as you suggested,
&gt;re-booted, and found xfs running with ps -ef and an
&gt;&quot;.xfont-unix&quot; directory under /tmp.  And no &quot;Fatal
&gt;error&quot; message.
&gt;
&gt;Now I wonder if the permissions on the other directories
&gt;under &quot;/&quot; are correct.  Most are &quot;drwxr-xr-x&quot; (as was
&gt;&quot;/tmp&quot; before I changed it.)  Is Linux great or what?
&gt;
&gt;Anyway, many, many thanks.
&gt;
&gt;Roger
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;On 9/27/05, Roger Hammons &lt;egorra at attglobal.net&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;  9/27  13:21:40  xfs: xfs startup succeeded
&gt; &gt;  9/27  13:21:40  xfs: Fatal font server error:
&gt; &gt;  9/27  13:21:40  xfs: Cannot establish any listening sockets
&gt; &gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;On 9/27/05, Michael Trausch answered:
&gt;
&gt;Typically, at least in my experiences, /tmp is used for all sorts of
&gt;sockets, and it is okay to dump /tmp between sessions (in fact, I do
&gt;it all the time on my machines, a reboot will kill the whole thing,
&gt;and a reboot happens once every month.  (This just prevents me from
&gt;forgetting things are there; I run 'df' fairly freqently, however, I
&gt;tend to put off emptying /tmp, lol, and it can sometimes get quite
&gt;large.)
&gt;
&gt;However, if you've changed /tmp, you may want to ensure that its
&gt;permissions are properly set:
&gt;
&gt;    drwxrwxrwt  11 root root    18 2005-09-28 00:57 tmp/
&gt;
&gt;It is slipping my mind at the moment the details behind it, but I do
&gt;seem to recall 1777 as being the proper octal permissions associated
&gt;with the permission string there.  I could be wrong on that,
&gt;however... it does mean that it's a &quot;sticky&quot; directory, which
&gt;(slightly) enhances security.  Many apps out there will silently fail
&gt;if they can't create a socket that can only be removed by them.
&gt;
&gt;   - Mike
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;------------------------------
&gt;
&gt;Message: 2
&gt;Date: 28 Sep 2005 20:32:47 -0600
&gt;From: Joe Knapka &lt;jknapka at kneuro.net&gt;
&gt;Subject: Re: [ale] keyboard works in bios/grub but not after boot?
&gt;To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts &lt;ale at ale.org&gt;
&gt;Cc: jknapka at kneuro.net
&gt;Message-ID: &lt;m3achwioxc.fsf at localhost.localdomain&gt;
&gt;Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
&gt;
&gt;&quot;John Wells&quot; &lt;jb at sourceillustrated.com&gt; writes:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Guys,
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Just rebooted my ubuntu box after doing a dist-upgrade last night, and now
&gt; &gt; I no longer have keyboard functionality.  The keyboard works fine in the
&gt; &gt; bios and in grub, but as soon as I select a kernel and boot it no longer
&gt; &gt; responds. I first thought it might be related to the upgrade, so I dropped
&gt; &gt; a live ubuntu cd in...same behavior...fine in grub and bios, screwed as
&gt; &gt; soon as it loaded the kernel.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Otherwise the box operates fine...I can boot it up and ssh in.
&gt;
&gt;I had a similar problem under Ubuntu. The problem was that the machine
&gt;had a USB keyboard, and I had AT keyboard emulation enabled in the
&gt;BIOS. Linux detected the AT keyboard at boot time, but something
&gt;during the kernel init process disabled the BIOS AT emulation (IIRC),
&gt;and the kernel was left with a nonexistent primary keyboard. When I
&gt;disabled the BIOS AT kbd emulation, Linux detected the USB device as
&gt;the primary keyboard, and all was well.
&gt;
&gt;Cheers,
&gt;
&gt;-- Joe Knapka
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;------------------------------
&gt;
&gt;Message: 3
&gt;Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 00:47:30 -0400
&gt;From: Dow Hurst &lt;Dow.Hurst at mindspring.com&gt;
&gt;Subject: [ale] Installation of SUSE 9.3 advice
&gt;To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts &lt;ale at ale.org&gt;
&gt;Message-ID: &lt;433B71E2.9020206 at mindspring.com&gt;
&gt;Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
&gt;
&gt;Jeff,
&gt;You can actually just use the first CD to get a ftp install from the ALE
&gt;ftp server going.  Or choose the minimal install first and then
&gt;configure Yast2 to point to the ALE ftp server for it's sources instead
&gt;of a CD or DVD.  If you don't need non-gpl based software and do have
&gt;ACPI issues then the suse 10 RC1 candidate distro is available from
&gt;mirrors off the opensuse.org site.  I found my laptop was much better
&gt;understood by the ACPI modules and thereby the kernel when I tried it.
&gt;I think SUSE 10 hits the market around the end of October or early
&gt;November.  If your machine is a 64 bit then suse 9.3 runs great and has
&gt;a option during initial booting to install 64 or 32 bit.  I think one of
&gt;the function keys switches the mode.  The Bitstream fonts (which I like)
&gt;are not installed by default.  Also, the DVD or ftp install will make
&gt;some packages available that aren't on the CDs.  Another tip, Suse will
&gt;allow user control of interfaces such as wifi and lan.  If you have both
&gt;enabled for DHCP and to be initialized at boot then the default route
&gt;gets assigned to the lan and not the wifi.  So, don't initialize the lan
&gt;at boot and do initialize the wifi to fix this.  Or, go static IP and
&gt;set the default route for at least one of the two.  Powersaved is the
&gt;package that runs all the ACPI and powersaving functions.  It runs as a
&gt;wrapper accepting all the modules messages and processing events, the
&gt;config files are all under /etc/sysconfig/powersaved.  Suse uses the
&gt;/etc/init.d startup scripts sys/V style with symlinks in the rcX.d
&gt;directories.  They've got a plan and methodology outlined in the Yast2
&gt;manuals so install the books and help files so you can read up on it.
&gt;You should use the checkconfig command and the insserv command for
&gt;dealing with runlevel at the command line.  Yast2 will do users, groups,
&gt;modify runlevels, recover a damaged MBR, configure NFS, and bunch of
&gt;other stuff.  There are updated versions of mozilla and other software
&gt;projects, not just security patches, available on the suse ftp server.
&gt;I hope they will continue with this as they transition to the
&gt;opensuse.org staging.  You can elect, after you get your installation
&gt;finished, to add nvidia accelerated graphics, all kinds of multimedia
&gt;related stuff, and important Openoffice.org patches in addition to the
&gt;security patching when updating with Yast2 Online Update, called YOU.
&gt;If you don't install the xine stuff via YOU, you can go to
&gt;<a  rel="nofollow" href="http://packman.links2linux.org/";>http://packman.links2linux.org/</a>  and get a bunch of rpms such as
&gt;Mplayer, the dvd decrypt code and so on.  There is a nice script that
&gt;will download the decrypt source for you and compile and install it.
&gt;The win32 codecs are there as well.  I usually download all that stuff
&gt;into a directory and point Yast2 to that as well as the ftp site in the
&gt;Change Installation Sources Yast2 module.  It saves trouble with
&gt;dependencies since you can get into a problem with xine packages
&gt;interfering with your install of other multimedia stuff.  Checkinstall
&gt;is available to use for source to rpm convenience in Suse.  Also, Bob
&gt;reviewed the Suse firewall scripts for his last book and found they were
&gt;adequate for what they do.  I've used them when necessary and the basic
&gt;config script is in /etc/sysconfig as well.  There are links on the
&gt;Opensuse site for suse based forums and resources.  Autoupdate for YOU
&gt;is available and will auto install typical security patches that don't
&gt;require a confirmation such as the kernel or any patch you've marked
&gt;previously as taboo.  One last point, the nvidia driver downloaded by
&gt;YOU is a outdated one now that has some bugs in it.  I would download a
&gt;later one, either by hand, or by modifying the fetchnvidia script
&gt;downloaded and used by YOU to do the install.  Kernel updates require a
&gt;recompile of the nvidia driver, so I've just used the nvidia native
&gt;installer script to handle that.  I've got six 9.3 machines I manage so
&gt;appreciate the Yast2 and YOU stuff.  There is a lot of SUSE related help
&gt;for each package in the help files for a package under
&gt;/usr/share/doc/packages.  Usually a SUSE.README exists for a package
&gt;with suse specific info, sometimes not.  I bet Geoffrey can add advice
&gt;here too!  Sorry about this email being a bit of a ramble!
&gt;
&gt;Nedit is missing now from the distro.  :-(
&gt;
&gt;I like its spreadsheet like copy and paste in a text processor.  Best
&gt;wishes,
&gt;Dow
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;Jeff Hubbs wrote:
&gt; &gt;John -
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;Bear with me, as I'm not used to the SuSE way of doing things (anymore) -
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;Did you have to download and burn ISOs to CD-R?  Is there a way to boot
&gt; &gt;to just one CD and then do the rest from a local NFS/SMB/FTP server or
&gt; &gt;from an Internet source?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;I've got my wife's laptop running on Gentoo but things like CDs, Wifi,
&gt; &gt;USB, etc. are not managed well (yes, it's because I haven't explicitly
&gt; &gt;*set them up* to be managed well - an acknowledged Gentoo bugaboo) and I
&gt; &gt;wouldn't mind setting her up with a different distro.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;Jeff
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;Mills, John M. wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;ALErs -
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;Having re-sized my WinNT partition dramatically (40-&gt;10Gby), I decided to
&gt; &gt;&gt;try Linux installation. I installed SuSe-9.3 from a downloaded CD set ...
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;Results were even better than I hoped.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;1) No problem setting up my partitions, including 8GBy as Fat32 for mutual
&gt; &gt;&gt;WinXP and Linux use.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;2) No problem identifying the peripherals in my Fry's house-brand laptop.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;3) X11 delivers a _better_ display than WinXP on the same machine.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;4) SuSe and 'linmodem' correctly identified the low-rent, AC'97 codec-based
&gt; &gt;&gt;~modem, configured it without complaint, and seem to manage it 
&gt; perfectly!! I
&gt; &gt;&gt;expected to fight with this, and only gave myself 50-50 odds of _ever_
&gt; &gt;&gt;having it work from Linux!
&gt; &gt;&gt;   YIPPEE!
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;5) Dual WinXP/Linux boot setup through GRUB dropped in and works fine.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;6) When the partitioning and installation were done I re-tried
&gt; &gt;&gt;SystemRescueCD and it worked fine. (What's life without the occasional
&gt; &gt;&gt;mystery, if it comes out OK at the end?)
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;It's my first SuSe installation; I doubt it will be my last. So far, I'm
&gt; &gt;&gt;_definitely_ a happy camper!
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;- Mills
&gt; &gt;&gt;
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&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;------------------------------
&gt;
&gt;Message: 4
&gt;Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:00:20 -0400
&gt;From: &quot;Robert L. Harris&quot; &lt;Robert.L.Harris at rdlg.net&gt;
&gt;Subject: [ale] OT: Neat!
&gt;To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts &lt;ale at ale.org&gt;
&gt;Message-ID: &lt;20050929160018.GL8644 at rdlg.net&gt;
&gt;Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;us-ascii&quot;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
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&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;:wq!
&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------------
&gt;Robert L. Harris                     | GPG Key ID: E344DA3B
&gt;
&gt;DISCLAIMER:
&gt;       These are MY OPINIONS             &quot;We can't solve problems by using
&gt;        ALONE.  I speak for                the same kind of thinking we used
&gt;        no-one else.                         when we created them.&quot;
&gt;                                           - Einstein
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&gt;
&gt;Message: 5
&gt;Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:06:17 -0400
&gt;From: &quot;James P. Kinney III&quot; &lt;jkinney at localnetsolutions.com&gt;
&gt;Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Neat!
&gt;To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts &lt;ale at ale.org&gt;
&gt;Message-ID: &lt;1128009977.16031.452.camel at merlin.localnetsolutions.com&gt;
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&gt;
&gt;It was the line at the very bottom that said &quot;Patent Pending&quot; that has
&gt;me concerned. A patent for a method of folding paper really, really
&gt;worries me.
&gt;
&gt;On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 12:00 -0400, Robert L. Harris wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; <a  rel="nofollow" href="http://www.pocketmod.com";>http://www.pocketmod.com</a>
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; :wq!
&gt; &gt; ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
&gt; &gt; Robert L. Harris                     | GPG Key ID: E344DA3B
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; DISCLAIMER:
&gt; &gt;       These are MY OPINIONS             &quot;We can't solve problems by using
&gt; &gt;        ALONE.  I speak for                the same kind of thinking we used
&gt; &gt;        no-one else.                         when we created them.&quot;
&gt; &gt;                                           - Einstein
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________
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&gt;--
&gt;James P. Kinney III          \Changing the mobile computing world/
&gt;CEO &amp; Director of Engineering \          one Linux user         /
&gt;Local Net Solutions,LLC        \           at a time.          /
&gt;770-493-8244                    \.___________________________./
&gt;<a  rel="nofollow" href="http://www.localnetsolutions.com";>http://www.localnetsolutions.com</a>
&gt;
&gt;GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III (M.S. Physics)
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&gt;
&gt;Message: 6
&gt;Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:10:36 -0400
&gt;From: Randy Ramsdell &lt;rramsdell at adelphia.net&gt;
&gt;Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Neat!
&gt;To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts &lt;ale at ale.org&gt;
&gt;Message-ID: &lt;1128010236.669.0.camel at rhino.r2.org&gt;
&gt;Content-Type: text/plain
&gt;
&gt;On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 12:06 -0400, James P. Kinney III wrote:
&gt; &gt; It was the line at the very bottom that said &quot;Patent Pending&quot; that has
&gt; &gt; me concerned. A patent for a method of folding paper really, really
&gt; &gt; worries me.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;And the way things are now, they will probably get the patent.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;------------------------------
&gt;
&gt;Message: 7
&gt;Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:28:06 -0400
&gt;From: &quot;James P. Kinney III&quot; &lt;jkinney at localnetsolutions.com&gt;
&gt;Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Neat!
&gt;To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts &lt;ale at ale.org&gt;
&gt;Message-ID: &lt;1128011286.16031.460.camel at merlin.localnetsolutions.com&gt;
&gt;Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;us-ascii&quot;
&gt;
&gt;I have developed a way to make a ball point pen readily available even
&gt;when I don't have a shirt with a pocket. By using a
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;        trade secret removed pending patent grant
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;one can easily retrieve the pen with one hand.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;I also have a business method that bills clients for consulting time in
&gt;a package pricing that
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;     trade secret removed pending patent grant
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;thereby saving client resources while boosting overall sales gains.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;When will it end ?!?!?!?!?!
&gt;
&gt;On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 12:10 -0400, Randy Ramsdell wrote:
&gt; &gt; On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 12:06 -0400, James P. Kinney III wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt; It was the line at the very bottom that said &quot;Patent Pending&quot; that has
&gt; &gt; &gt; me concerned. A patent for a method of folding paper really, really
&gt; &gt; &gt; worries me.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; And the way things are now, they will probably get the patent.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________
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&gt;--
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&gt;CEO &amp; Director of Engineering \          one Linux user         /
&gt;Local Net Solutions,LLC        \           at a time.          /
&gt;770-493-8244                    \.___________________________./
&gt;<a  rel="nofollow" href="http://www.localnetsolutions.com";>http://www.localnetsolutions.com</a>
&gt;
&gt;GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III (M.S. Physics)
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&gt;
&gt;Message: 8
&gt;Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:47:57 -0400
&gt;From: Michael Still &lt;stillwaxin at gmail.com&gt;
&gt;Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Neat!
&gt;To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts &lt;ale at ale.org&gt;
&gt;Message-ID: &lt;12bbc01c05092909475e3a01a5 at mail.gmail.com&gt;
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&gt;
&gt;On 9/29/05, Robert L. Harris &lt;Robert.L.Harris at rdlg.net&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; <a  rel="nofollow" href="http://www.pocketmod.com";>http://www.pocketmod.com</a>
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt;Reminds me of the hipster: 
&gt;<a  rel="nofollow" href="http://www.43folders.com/2004/09/introducing_the.html";>http://www.43folders.com/2004/09/introducing_the.html</a>
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;--
&gt;[stillwaxin at gmail.com ~]$ cat .signature
&gt;cat: .signature: No such file or directory
&gt;[stillwaxin at gmail.com ~]$
&gt;
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&gt;
&gt;Message: 9
&gt;Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:25:35 -0400
&gt;From: Scott Castaline &lt;hscast at charter.net&gt;
&gt;Subject: [ale] OT:What is this?
&gt;To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts &lt;ale at ale.org&gt;
&gt;Message-ID: &lt;433C319F.3070509 at charter.net&gt;
&gt;Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;iso-8859-1&quot;
&gt;
&gt;I received this e-mail (see attachment) this past Tues. There is a link
&gt;to web site that appears to be Arabic. Anyone know what this is, does
&gt;not appear to be avirus or trojan at least for Linux.....
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