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- <li><em>date</em>: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 22:00:38 -0400</li>
- <li><em>from</em>: mpwright at speedfactory.net (Mark Wright)</li>
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I am sure I am not the most qualified but I did do systems admin for
a school for a few years and I can hold my own in a debate with a
windows advocate.
What time and place do you need someone?
Mark Wright
On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 20:31:11 -0400
Daniel Howard <dhhoward at comcast.net> wrote:
> Is there a Linux expert in Atlanta who could attend a meeting with
> some parents and a school technology official and respond to
> classical anti-Linux questions for us? We're happy to compensate for
> time.
>
> Daniel
>
>
> At 02:25 PM 9/29/2005, you wrote:
> >Send Ale mailing list submissions to
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> >Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Re: X Font Server (xfs) problem (Roger Hammons)
> > 2. Re: keyboard works in bios/grub but not after boot? (Joe
> > Knapka) 3. Installation of SUSE 9.3 advice (Dow Hurst)
> > 4. OT: Neat! (Robert L. Harris)
> > 5. Re: OT: Neat! (James P. Kinney III)
> > 6. Re: OT: Neat! (Randy Ramsdell)
> > 7. Re: OT: Neat! (James P. Kinney III)
> > 8. Re: OT: Neat! (Michael Still)
> > 9. OT:What is this? (Scott Castaline)
> >
> >
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 1
> >Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:56:52 -0400
> >From: Roger Hammons <egorra at attglobal.net>
> >Subject: Re: [ale] X Font Server (xfs) problem
> >To: Michael Trausch <fd0man at gmail.com>, ale at ale.org
> >Message-ID: <433AE774.31CEB4A0 at attglobal.net>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >Mike and All:
> >
> >That's it! Worked perfectly!
> >
> >I changed the permissions on /tmp as you suggested,
> >re-booted, and found xfs running with ps -ef and an
> >".xfont-unix" directory under /tmp. And no "Fatal
> >error" message.
> >
> >Now I wonder if the permissions on the other directories
> >under "/" are correct. Most are "drwxr-xr-x" (as was
> >"/tmp" before I changed it.) Is Linux great or what?
> >
> >Anyway, many, many thanks.
> >
> >Roger
> >
> >
> >On 9/27/05, Roger Hammons <egorra at attglobal.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > 9/27 13:21:40 xfs: xfs startup succeeded
> > > 9/27 13:21:40 xfs: Fatal font server error:
> > > 9/27 13:21:40 xfs: Cannot establish any listening sockets
> > >
> >
> >
> >On 9/27/05, Michael Trausch answered:
> >
> >Typically, at least in my experiences, /tmp is used for all sorts of
> >sockets, and it is okay to dump /tmp between sessions (in fact, I do
> >it all the time on my machines, a reboot will kill the whole thing,
> >and a reboot happens once every month. (This just prevents me from
> >forgetting things are there; I run 'df' fairly freqently, however, I
> >tend to put off emptying /tmp, lol, and it can sometimes get quite
> >large.)
> >
> >However, if you've changed /tmp, you may want to ensure that its
> >permissions are properly set:
> >
> > drwxrwxrwt 11 root root 18 2005-09-28 00:57 tmp/
> >
> >It is slipping my mind at the moment the details behind it, but I do
> >seem to recall 1777 as being the proper octal permissions associated
> >with the permission string there. I could be wrong on that,
> >however... it does mean that it's a "sticky" directory, which
> >(slightly) enhances security. Many apps out there will silently fail
> >if they can't create a socket that can only be removed by them.
> >
> > - Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 2
> >Date: 28 Sep 2005 20:32:47 -0600
> >From: Joe Knapka <jknapka at kneuro.net>
> >Subject: Re: [ale] keyboard works in bios/grub but not after boot?
> >To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
> >Cc: jknapka at kneuro.net
> >Message-ID: <m3achwioxc.fsf at localhost.localdomain>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >"John Wells" <jb at sourceillustrated.com> writes:
> >
> > > Guys,
> > >
> > > Just rebooted my ubuntu box after doing a dist-upgrade last
> > > night, and now I no longer have keyboard functionality. The
> > > keyboard works fine in the bios and in grub, but as soon as I
> > > select a kernel and boot it no longer responds. I first thought
> > > it might be related to the upgrade, so I dropped a live ubuntu cd
> > > in...same behavior...fine in grub and bios, screwed as soon as it
> > > loaded the kernel.
> > >
> > > Otherwise the box operates fine...I can boot it up and ssh in.
> >
> >I had a similar problem under Ubuntu. The problem was that the
> >machine had a USB keyboard, and I had AT keyboard emulation enabled
> >in the BIOS. Linux detected the AT keyboard at boot time, but
> >something during the kernel init process disabled the BIOS AT
> >emulation (IIRC), and the kernel was left with a nonexistent primary
> >keyboard. When I disabled the BIOS AT kbd emulation, Linux detected
> >the USB device as the primary keyboard, and all was well.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >-- Joe Knapka
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 3
> >Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 00:47:30 -0400
> >From: Dow Hurst <Dow.Hurst at mindspring.com>
> >Subject: [ale] Installation of SUSE 9.3 advice
> >To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
> >Message-ID: <433B71E2.9020206 at mindspring.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> >Jeff,
> >You can actually just use the first CD to get a ftp install from the
> >ALE ftp server going. Or choose the minimal install first and then
> >configure Yast2 to point to the ALE ftp server for it's sources
> >instead of a CD or DVD. If you don't need non-gpl based software
> >and do have ACPI issues then the suse 10 RC1 candidate distro is
> >available from mirrors off the opensuse.org site. I found my laptop
> >was much better understood by the ACPI modules and thereby the
> >kernel when I tried it. I think SUSE 10 hits the market around the
> >end of October or early November. If your machine is a 64 bit then
> >suse 9.3 runs great and has a option during initial booting to
> >install 64 or 32 bit. I think one of the function keys switches the
> >mode. The Bitstream fonts (which I like) are not installed by
> >default. Also, the DVD or ftp install will make some packages
> >available that aren't on the CDs. Another tip, Suse will allow user
> >control of interfaces such as wifi and lan. If you have both
> >enabled for DHCP and to be initialized at boot then the default
> >route gets assigned to the lan and not the wifi. So, don't
> >initialize the lan at boot and do initialize the wifi to fix this.
> >Or, go static IP and set the default route for at least one of the
> >two. Powersaved is the package that runs all the ACPI and
> >powersaving functions. It runs as a wrapper accepting all the
> >modules messages and processing events, the config files are all
> >under /etc/sysconfig/powersaved. Suse uses the /etc/init.d startup
> >scripts sys/V style with symlinks in the rcX.d directories. They've
> >got a plan and methodology outlined in the Yast2 manuals so install
> >the books and help files so you can read up on it. You should use
> >the checkconfig command and the insserv command for dealing with
> >runlevel at the command line. Yast2 will do users, groups, modify
> >runlevels, recover a damaged MBR, configure NFS, and bunch of other
> >stuff. There are updated versions of mozilla and other software
> >projects, not just security patches, available on the suse ftp
> >server. I hope they will continue with this as they transition to
> >the opensuse.org staging. You can elect, after you get your
> >installation finished, to add nvidia accelerated graphics, all kinds
> >of multimedia related stuff, and important Openoffice.org patches in
> >addition to the security patching when updating with Yast2 Online
> >Update, called YOU. If you don't install the xine stuff via YOU, you
> >can go to <a rel="nofollow" href="http://packman.links2linux.org/";>http://packman.links2linux.org/</a> and get a bunch of rpms
> >such as Mplayer, the dvd decrypt code and so on. There is a nice
> >script that will download the decrypt source for you and compile and
> >install it. The win32 codecs are there as well. I usually download
> >all that stuff into a directory and point Yast2 to that as well as
> >the ftp site in the Change Installation Sources Yast2 module. It
> >saves trouble with dependencies since you can get into a problem
> >with xine packages interfering with your install of other multimedia
> >stuff. Checkinstall is available to use for source to rpm
> >convenience in Suse. Also, Bob reviewed the Suse firewall scripts
> >for his last book and found they were adequate for what they do.
> >I've used them when necessary and the basic config script is in /etc/
> >sysconfig as well. There are links on the Opensuse site for suse
> >based forums and resources. Autoupdate for YOU is available and
> >will auto install typical security patches that don't require a
> >confirmation such as the kernel or any patch you've marked
> >previously as taboo. One last point, the nvidia driver downloaded
> >by YOU is a outdated one now that has some bugs in it. I would
> >download a later one, either by hand, or by modifying the
> >fetchnvidia script downloaded and used by YOU to do the install.
> >Kernel updates require a recompile of the nvidia driver, so I've
> >just used the nvidia native installer script to handle that. I've
> >got six 9.3 machines I manage so appreciate the Yast2 and YOU
> >stuff. There is a lot of SUSE related help for each package in the
> >help files for a package under /usr/share/doc/packages. Usually a
> >SUSE.README exists for a package with suse specific info, sometimes
> >not. I bet Geoffrey can add advice here too! Sorry about this
> >email being a bit of a ramble!
> >
> >Nedit is missing now from the distro. :-(
> >
> >I like its spreadsheet like copy and paste in a text processor. Best
> >wishes,
> >Dow
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Jeff Hubbs wrote:
> > >John -
> > >
> > >Bear with me, as I'm not used to the SuSE way of doing things
> > >(anymore) -
> > >
> > >Did you have to download and burn ISOs to CD-R? Is there a way to
> > >boot to just one CD and then do the rest from a local NFS/SMB/FTP
> > >server or from an Internet source?
> > >
> > >I've got my wife's laptop running on Gentoo but things like CDs,
> > >Wifi, USB, etc. are not managed well (yes, it's because I haven't
> > >explicitly *set them up* to be managed well - an acknowledged
> > >Gentoo bugaboo) and I wouldn't mind setting her up with a
> > >different distro.
> > >
> > >Jeff
> > >
> > >Mills, John M. wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>ALErs -
> > >>
> > >>Having re-sized my WinNT partition dramatically (40->10Gby), I
> > >>decided to try Linux installation. I installed SuSe-9.3 from a
> > >>downloaded CD set ...
> > >>
> > >>Results were even better than I hoped.
> > >>
> > >>1) No problem setting up my partitions, including 8GBy as Fat32
> > >>for mutual WinXP and Linux use.
> > >>
> > >>2) No problem identifying the peripherals in my Fry's house-brand
> > >>laptop.
> > >>
> > >>3) X11 delivers a _better_ display than WinXP on the same machine.
> > >>
> > >>4) SuSe and 'linmodem' correctly identified the low-rent, AC'97
> > >>codec-based ~modem, configured it without complaint, and seem to
> > >>manage it
> > perfectly!! I
> > >>expected to fight with this, and only gave myself 50-50 odds of
> > >>_ever_ having it work from Linux!
> > >> YIPPEE!
> > >>
> > >>5) Dual WinXP/Linux boot setup through GRUB dropped in and works
> > >>fine.
> > >>
> > >>6) When the partitioning and installation were done I re-tried
> > >>SystemRescueCD and it worked fine. (What's life without the
> > >>occasional mystery, if it comes out OK at the end?)
> > >>
> > >>It's my first SuSe installation; I doubt it will be my last. So
> > >>far, I'm _definitely_ a happy camper!
> > >>
> > >>- Mills
> > >>
> > >>_______________________________________________
> > >>Ale mailing list
> > >>Ale at ale.org
> > >><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale";>http://www.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >Ale mailing list
> > >Ale at ale.org
> > ><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale";>http://www.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 4
> >Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:00:20 -0400
> >From: "Robert L. Harris" <Robert.L.Harris at rdlg.net>
> >Subject: [ale] OT: Neat!
> >To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
> >Message-ID: <20050929160018.GL8644 at rdlg.net>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >
> >
> ><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.pocketmod.com";>http://www.pocketmod.com</a>
> >
> >
> >
> >:wq!
> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >Robert L. Harris | GPG Key ID: E344DA3B
> >
> >DISCLAIMER:
> > These are MY OPINIONS "We can't solve problems by
> > using ALONE. I speak for the same kind of thinking
> > we used no-one else. when we created them."
> > - Einstein
> >
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> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 5
> >Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:06:17 -0400
> >From: "James P. Kinney III" <jkinney at localnetsolutions.com>
> >Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Neat!
> >To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
> >Message-ID: <1128009977.16031.452.camel at merlin.localnetsolutions.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >It was the line at the very bottom that said "Patent Pending" that
> >has me concerned. A patent for a method of folding paper really,
> >really worries me.
> >
> >On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 12:00 -0400, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> > >
> > > <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.pocketmod.com";>http://www.pocketmod.com</a>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > :wq!
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Robert L. Harris | GPG Key ID: E344DA3B
> > >
> > > DISCLAIMER:
> > > These are MY OPINIONS "We can't solve problems
> > > by using ALONE. I speak for the same kind of
> > > thinking we used no-one else. when we
> > > created them."
> > > - Einstein
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Ale mailing list
> > > Ale at ale.org
> > > <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale";>http://www.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a>
> >--
> >James P. Kinney III \Changing the mobile computing world/
> >CEO & Director of Engineering \ one Linux user /
> >Local Net Solutions,LLC \ at a time. /
> >770-493-8244 \.___________________________./
> ><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.localnetsolutions.com";>http://www.localnetsolutions.com</a>
> >
> >GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III (M.S. Physics)
> ><jkinney at localnetsolutions.com>
> >Fingerprint = 3C9E 6366 54FC A3FE BA4D 0659 6190 ADC3 829C 6CA7
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> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 6
> >Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:10:36 -0400
> >From: Randy Ramsdell <rramsdell at adelphia.net>
> >Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Neat!
> >To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
> >Message-ID: <1128010236.669.0.camel at rhino.r2.org>
> >Content-Type: text/plain
> >
> >On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 12:06 -0400, James P. Kinney III wrote:
> > > It was the line at the very bottom that said "Patent Pending"
> > > that has me concerned. A patent for a method of folding paper
> > > really, really worries me.
> >
> >
> >And the way things are now, they will probably get the patent.
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 7
> >Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:28:06 -0400
> >From: "James P. Kinney III" <jkinney at localnetsolutions.com>
> >Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Neat!
> >To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
> >Message-ID: <1128011286.16031.460.camel at merlin.localnetsolutions.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >I have developed a way to make a ball point pen readily available
> >even when I don't have a shirt with a pocket. By using a
> >
> >
> > trade secret removed pending patent grant
> >
> >
> >
> >one can easily retrieve the pen with one hand.
> >
> >
> >I also have a business method that bills clients for consulting time
> >in a package pricing that
> >
> >
> > trade secret removed pending patent grant
> >
> >
> >
> >thereby saving client resources while boosting overall sales gains.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >When will it end ?!?!?!?!?!
> >
> >On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 12:10 -0400, Randy Ramsdell wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 12:06 -0400, James P. Kinney III wrote:
> > > > It was the line at the very bottom that said "Patent Pending"
> > > > that has me concerned. A patent for a method of folding paper
> > > > really, really worries me.
> > >
> > >
> > > And the way things are now, they will probably get the patent.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Ale mailing list
> > > Ale at ale.org
> > > <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale";>http://www.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a>
> >--
> >James P. Kinney III \Changing the mobile computing world/
> >CEO & Director of Engineering \ one Linux user /
> >Local Net Solutions,LLC \ at a time. /
> >770-493-8244 \.___________________________./
> ><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.localnetsolutions.com";>http://www.localnetsolutions.com</a>
> >
> >GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III (M.S. Physics)
> ><jkinney at localnetsolutions.com>
> >Fingerprint = 3C9E 6366 54FC A3FE BA4D 0659 6190 ADC3 829C 6CA7
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> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 8
> >Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:47:57 -0400
> >From: Michael Still <stillwaxin at gmail.com>
> >Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Neat!
> >To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
> >Message-ID: <12bbc01c05092909475e3a01a5 at mail.gmail.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> >On 9/29/05, Robert L. Harris <Robert.L.Harris at rdlg.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.pocketmod.com";>http://www.pocketmod.com</a>
> > >
> > >
> >Reminds me of the hipster:
> ><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.43folders.com/2004/09/introducing_the.html";>http://www.43folders.com/2004/09/introducing_the.html</a>
> >
> >
> >--
> >[stillwaxin at gmail.com ~]$ cat .signature
> >cat: .signature: No such file or directory
> >[stillwaxin at gmail.com ~]$
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 9
> >Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:25:35 -0400
> >From: Scott Castaline <hscast at charter.net>
> >Subject: [ale] OT:What is this?
> >To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
> >Message-ID: <433C319F.3070509 at charter.net>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >I received this e-mail (see attachment) this past Tues. There is a
> >link to web site that appears to be Arabic. Anyone know what this
> >is, does not appear to be avirus or trojan at least for Linux.....
> >
> >Scott Castaline
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