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It beat taking 14" platters to be sandblasted.
Greg Freemyer wrote:
>On 10/28/05, Geoffrey <esoteric at 3times25.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Greg Freemyer wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>First, find a whopping-big magnet ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>This is likely a better solution then a simple format.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>False, disk drives are enclosed in metal that redirects the magnatism
>>>around the platters. Takes a huge magnet. Think small refridgerator
>>>size. Maybe a little smaller for a laptop drive.
>>>
>>>
>>False? So what's the difference between a 'whopping-big magnet' and a
>>'huge magnet?' My point was that simply reformatting the drive touches
>>very little of the actual data on the drive. Now if he'd said a 10lb
>>magnet and you said a 100lb magnet, then I can see the difference.
>>
>>
>
>I took the word "better" to mean "more realistic". I just don't think
>the magnet approach is realistic. Most people seem to think they can
>take a $30 tape demagnatizer and demagnetize a disk. Magnets built
>for the job cost around $5K. Pretty hard to justify. Even government
>agencies don't use them from my limited knowledge. I've been told
>they use really big shredders that can shred the whole drive. Never
>seen that myself....
>
>
>
>>>I would remove the drive carrier from the Dell. Then remove the drive
>>>from the drive carrier. Then open up the drive (normally uses some
>>>very small specialty screw drivers. You can buy those at Fry's I
>>>think). Be aware that one of the screws is normally in the middle of
>>>the spindle and covered by a paper label. Removal of this screw is
>>>normally fairly obvious, but I doubt Dell will look very hard.
>>>
>>>
>>and very likely void the warranty on the whole thing. Better chance of
>>saying you had to replace the drive.
>>
>>
>>>Once you have the drive open, pop the platters off the spindle.
>>>(Fairly easy to do the few times I've done it.) Reassemble everything
>>>but the platters and send it back to Dell. Worst case Dell makes you
>>>pay for the new drive.
>>>
>>>
>>Wrong, they will likely void the whole warranty. You'd be better off
>>replacing the drive. At least then, the drive sticker that says 'void
>>if removed' will still be in place.
>>
>>I would suggest he look into how replacing the drive would impact the
>>warranty.
>>
>>
>
>Personally, if I was worried about proprietary data I would not have
>called Dell in the first place. Just bought a new laptop drive (less
>than $100) and replaced it myself. Then I could easily destroy the
>physical drive and not have to worry about the warrenty issues.
>
>Greg
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