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- <li><em>date</em>: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:55:31 -0400</li>
- <li><em>from</em>: chowell at xilogix.net (J. Cary Howell)</li>
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The purpose of this ruling was to put the incumbent LECs on the same
footing as the cable companies. They don't have to sell a third party
their last mile loop, modem and head end usage at all.
Now, reading Speed Factory's Company -> About the Company page, they are
a company that falls squarely within this ruling. Looks like we have
about one year left and either Speed Factory works out some agreement
with Bellsouth, becomes a CLEC or we subscribers go pounding pavement.
Speakeasy, on the other hand, doesn't have DSL service at my home which
leads me to believe that they are buying the service unbundled and
putting their own DSLAMs where it makes sense.
<rant>
I loathe Bellsouth, namely because of all the port blocking they do on
their network -- supposedly to protect "me". Bah! They ain't bright
enough to troubleshoot a PPoE connection on anything except windows and
not sure they are bright enough to do that either, so I don't need their
port blocking protection. Kinda why we have iptables, firewalls, et.
al.
</rant>
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 11:51 -0400, James Sumners wrote:
> Then I don't understand. Didn't the FCC ruling state that Bell
> companies would no longer have to lease their copper to independent
> ISPs? And aren't Speedfactory and Speakeasy independent ISPs that have
> to lease copper from the Bell companies? I would really prefer to stay
> with Speedfactory and I don't really know if this ruling will affect
> that.
>
> On 9/15/05, J. Cary Howell <chowell at xilogix.net> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 09:38 -0400, James Sumners wrote:
> > > As for Speakeasy. I wouldn't be surprised if Bellsouth is not renewing
> > > 3rd party contracts and refusing to give service that would go beyond
> > > the 3rd party's current contract. Damn the FCC.
> >
> > <a rel="nofollow" href="http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-260433A1.pdf">http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-260433A1.pdf</a>
> >
> > The NPR FCC 05-150, "FCC Eliminates Mandated Sharing Requirement on
> > Incumbents' Wireline Broadband Internet Access Services" should not
> > affect Speakeasy or any of the others that are offering DSL as a CLEC
> > (bundling the core components of DSLAM and network) and reselling them.
> >
> > <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.speakeasy.net/press/pr/pr080805.php">http://www.speakeasy.net/press/pr/pr080805.php</a>
> >
> > Even Speakeasy themselves issued a press release 3 days after the NPR to
> > state that it would not adversely affect their delivery of service. Not
> > saying you're wrong, but if they said they can't offer the service and
> > have a press release on their site contradicting that -- I'm confused.
> >
> > The part that I hate is that this NPR can effect (in the words of the
> > Commission, it's up to the incumbent to decide what they will offer to
> > non CLEC ISPs) ISPs that do not have CLEC status.
> >
> >
> > --
> > J. Cary Howell
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> > Atlanta, GA 30303 DID. (404) 739-9146
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