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BS used to be able to charge *whatever* for high-speed network access 
(several hundred for ISDN, several thousand for T-1, and on up the 
chain), and keep the vast majority of the $$

Now, BS provides copper only to companies like Cbeyond who then provide 
the customer with a 'value added' T-1 circuit for $500.

Perhaps a bit overly simplistic, but I believe it's pretty accurate.

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James P. Kinney III wrote:

&gt;On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 11:57 -0400, Nathan J. Underwood wrote:
&gt;  
&gt;
&gt;&gt;I've heard both good and bad about Cbeyond.  My company is a Cbeyond 
&gt;&gt;Channel Partner, and we recommend it to quite a few of our clients.  
&gt;&gt;Thus far, we've got clients running the BV1 (single T-1) and BVIII 
&gt;&gt;(three T-3's), and none have had any real trouble (there has been an 
&gt;&gt;issue with bubba and the backhoe).  I've heard from a number of other 
&gt;&gt;people though that have had nothing but trouble.
&gt;&gt;    
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;I am deeply suspicious about the T1 connection that BS provides. Most of
&gt;the issues my folks have had with connectivity have been related to BS
&gt;and their T1 line, not CBeyond connection.
&gt;  
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Ryan Fish wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;    
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Every customer we have that uses CBeyond has nothing but trouble with their
&gt;&gt;&gt;connectivity.  In fact we HIGHLY recommend that NONE of our customers even
&gt;&gt;&gt;consider them as an option.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;-----Original Message-----
&gt;&gt;&gt;From: ale-bounces at ale.org [<a  rel="nofollow" href="mailto:ale-bounces";>mailto:ale-bounces</a> at ale.org] On Behalf Of James P.
&gt;&gt;&gt;Kinney III
&gt;&gt;&gt;Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 9:02 AM
&gt;&gt;&gt;To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
&gt;&gt;&gt;Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Advice / help
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 07:39 -0400, Christopher Fowler wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;      
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 03:33 -0400, Marvin the Martian wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;        
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<a  rel="nofollow" href="http://www.cbeyond.net/";>http://www.cbeyond.net/</a>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;They'll do ya a t-1 for under 200 bux. 
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;          
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Is that per month?  He'll still need some device that can do frame
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;right?  Like a cisco 2500 router.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;        
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;Cbeyond offers T1's with phone and data for about $500/month (5 lines,
&gt;&gt;&gt;2000 minutes of long distance, other perks, etc). It includes the Cisco
&gt;&gt;&gt;box that dynamically splits out phone traffic from data traffic. If the
&gt;&gt;&gt;phone is not in use, you have a full T1 of data. Each phone call eats
&gt;&gt;&gt;96k of data of bandwidth.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;I have several clients with CBeyond and they are very happy.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;If anyone is interested drop me a line and I will get you in touch with
&gt;&gt;&gt;a top-notch (i.e. not pushy) sales rep who can fill you in on all the
&gt;&gt;&gt;details.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;They have multiple packages for larger needs (15 lines, 2 T1's, etc).
&gt;&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt;      
&gt;&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
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