[ale] good website for novice learning Java ?

[rev.null at gmail.com (Rev. Johnny Healey)]

It's kind of funny that you mention both Bruce Eckel's Java book and Python,
since he seems to have hopped off of the java wagon and onto the Python
one.  Last I heard, he's writing a _Thinking_in_Python_ book.

-Johnny

On 10/12/06, Charles Shapiro <hooterpincher at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Grit your teeth and buy a book. I'm fond of Bruce Eckel's
> _Thinking_in_Java_ ( http://mindview.net/Books/TIJ4 ).
> Download and install the jdk from sun on your machine. Read all the
> chapters and do all the examples.
> I made a point of not using an IDE, so I could get a real feel for the
> language itself and how the naked compiler actually reacted to my errors.
> Most of the  stuff in Eckel's book is simple enough to  do from the command
> line, but  eventually you'll probably want to gain familiarity with  ANT (
> http://ant.apache.org/), which is the java equivalent of make(1).  If you
> do this early on it may well make your learning experience a little easier.
>
> BTW if you're a _complete_ novice and this is your first foray into
> programming or your first foray into Object Oriented programming, I'd
> recommend python ( http://www.python.org/ ) instead of java. It's got all
> the crunchy OO goodness of java but lacks many of Java's irritations (e.g.
> the explicit compile step, Java's wonky handling of the OS interface, Java's
> distinction between 'primitive types' and 'objects')  Of course, you may be
> constrained to learn java by --say-- a boss who's offering a carrot or
> threatening with a stick.
>
> -- CHS
>
>
>
> On 10/12/06, Courtney Thomas <courtneycthomas at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >
> > I know Sun has a ton of stuff re:java but I'm lookin' for
> > a beginner's site that is more navigable and transparent.
> >
> > Thank you once more,
> > Courtney
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