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Subject: [ale] Replacing shared host?
From: simbalion-ale at tailpuff.net (Simba)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 10:55:46 -0500
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On 12/17/18 10:54 AM, Leam Hall via Ale wrote:
> I'd probably use Ansible to build out whatever, and at this point I'm
> moving from "sysadmin" to "programmer". The less OS the better.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:49 AM Beddingfield, Allen via Ale
> <ale at ale.org <mailto:ale at ale.org>> wrote:
> 
>     According to them, hardware failure.
>     I had backups, so no data lost.
>     Allen B.
> 
>     On 12/17/18 9:46 AM, Simba via Ale wrote:
>     > Uh huh, and can you offer any more detail about how your VMs were
>     lost?
>     > Was it user error?
>     >
>     > Being able to load your own ISO is a nice feature, and one that
>     Digital
>     > Ocean recently started to offer. Personally I don't find it extremely
>     > useful, since I only use Debian.
>     >
>     > Simba Lion - https://tailpuff.net
>     > https://keybase.io/simbalion
>     >
>     > "Why is a raven like a writing desk?"
>     >
>     > On 12/17/18 10:38 AM, Beddingfield, Allen via Ale wrote:
>     >> 2-3 years ago, if I remember correctly.
>     >> The major selling factor for me with Vultr is the ability to load
>     my own
>     >> OS.? Digital Ocean doesn't support openSUSE (or didn't the last
>     time I
>     >> checked), and I can just load it from ISO on Vultr.
>     >>
>     >> Allen B.
>     >>
>     >> On 12/17/18 9:35 AM, Simba via Ale wrote:
>     >>> When was that? I've been using them since 2013 and I've never
>     >>> experienced more professional treatment from a low cost tech
>     service.
>     >>> I run dozens of servers and have had zero issues. Performance is
>     >>> consistent and fast.
>     >>>
>     >>> And you dont pay more for less. That's what AWS and GCP are.
>     Vultr and
>     >>> D.O. are basically the same in terms of price.
>     >>>
>     >>> On December 17, 2018 10:32:16 AM EST, "Beddingfield, Allen via Ale"
>     >>> <ale at ale.org <mailto:ale at ale.org>> wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>>? ??? After Digital Ocean lost two of my VMs, and all they could
>     says was
>     >>>? ??? "sorry, here's some account credits", I lost faith in them and
>     >>> moved to
>     >>>? ??? Vultr.
>     >>>? ??? Either way, I keep my own backups, because I don't trust anyone
>     >>> else to
>     >>>? ??? do it.
>     >>>
>     >>>? ??? Allen B.
>     >>>
>     >>>? ??? On 12/17/18 9:20 AM, Simba wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>>? ??????? Vultr is fine for hobby stuff but they don't seem
>     professional
>     >>>? ??????? and if
>     >>>? ??????? yer project is for business I would recommend Digital Ocean
>     >>> instead.
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>? ??????? On December 17, 2018 9:18:03 AM EST, "Beddingfield,
>     Allen via
>     >>> Ale"
>     >>>? ??????? <ale at ale.org <mailto:ale at ale.org>> wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>>? ??????? I highly recommend Vultr. Never had an issue, and they
>     are one
>     >>>? ??????? of the
>     >>>? ??????? few that will allow you to upload your own ISO and
>     interactively
>     >>>? ??????? install
>     >>>? ??????? the OS. If you don't want to do that, you can use one
>     of their
>     >>>? ??????? images.
>     >>>
>     >>>? ??????? I use Vultr for VM hosting, Enom for DNS, and I have a paid
>     >>>? ??????? account with
>     >>>? ??????? ProtonMail for e-mail (got tired of trying to run my
>     own mail
>     >>>? ??????? server).
>     >>>
>     >>>? ??????? All have been good experiences.
>     >>>? ??????? Allen B.
>     >>>
>     >>>? ??????? On 12/17/18 6:53 AM, Leam Hall via Ale wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>>? ??????? Hey all, I need to move into this century. After almost
>     20 years
>     >>>? ??????? with
>     >>>? ??????? the same shared host, the tech support that has been
>     farmed out
>     >>>? ??????? to keeps
>     >>>? ??????? making the service useless.
>     >>>
>     >>>? ??????? My needs are pretty simple, a few web pages. In theory
>     I'll grow
>     >>>? ??????? to PHP
>     >>>? ??????? 7 and MySQL in the back end, but right now I need to
>     write web
>     >>>? ??????? pages and
>     >>>? ??????? scp them up to the host. I have some time to move
>     things over,
>     >>>? ??????? thus time
>     >>>? ??????? to learn something if necessary. I do not want to run a the
>     >>>? ??????? server in my
>     >>>? ??????? house.
>     >>>
>     >>>? ??????? Is it time to move to something like Digital Ocean
>     droplets, or
>     >>>? ??????? AWS?
>     >>>? ??????? Long term it looks like DO costs more and you get less,
>     but I
>     >>>? ??????? just don't
>     >>>? ??????? know yet.
>     >>>
>     >>>? ??????? Thoughts and recommendations?
>     >>>
>     >>>? ??????? Leam
>     >>>? ? ? ? ?
>     >>>
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References:
- [ale] Replacing shared host?
  - From: leamhall at gmail.com (Leam Hall)
- [ale] Replacing shared host?
  - From: allen at ua.edu (Beddingfield, Allen)
- [ale] Replacing shared host?
  - From: simbalion-ale at tailpuff.net (Simba)
- [ale] Replacing shared host?
  - From: allen at ua.edu (Beddingfield, Allen)
- [ale] Replacing shared host?
  - From: simbalion-ale at tailpuff.net (Simba)
- [ale] Replacing shared host?
  - From: allen at ua.edu (Beddingfield, Allen)
- [ale] Replacing shared host?
  - From: simbalion-ale at tailpuff.net (Simba)
- [ale] Replacing shared host?
  - From: allen at ua.edu (Beddingfield, Allen)
- [ale] Replacing shared host?
  - From: leamhall at gmail.com (Leam Hall)

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