Attempted coup d'etat in Turkey - probable conclusion

[zen@freedbms.net (Zenaan Harkness)]

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 07:54:19PM -0700, Rayzer wrote:
> As far as your other missive's link goes:
> 
>     Erdogan Taunts Obama Over Coup Attempt in Turkey
>     Erdogan will not forgive the Obama administration for leading him up the
>     garden path on Syria, convincing him that Washington was leaving no
>     stone unturned to overthrow the Assad regime
>     http://atimes.com/2016/07/erdogan-taunts-obama-over-turkeys-coup-bid/
> 
> 
> 
> Erdogan's hand is ISIS, and they're already all over Europe thanks to
> the Russian AF rout,


  Rayzer, seriously, are you serious?



Which North Atlantic + European military bloc rhyming with poTATO
is Turkey+Erdogan a member of again? (Hint: NATO.)

And which country is Syria's primary military partner and long term
ally again? (Hint: Russia.)

And who was it that intended to overthrow Syria again? (Hint: USA.)

And who was it that established ISIS, trained, funded and provided
weapons to ISIS collaborators, provided military and logistical support
to invade Syria and was loudly proclaiming for 4 years that "Assad must
go"?  (Hint: USA.)

Did you not watch that interview/ talk by USA General Wesley Clark?

Here it is again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8YtF76s-yM
http://www.globalresearch.ca/we-re-going-to-take-out-7-countries-in-5-years-iraq-syria-lebanon-libya-somalia-sudan-iran/5166
(article links to the full Wesley Clark interview - recommended (I'd
only seen the short most significant part before)



Rayzer, you are parroting the establishment/ MSM position, is that
position truthful? (Hint: it is a lie.)



To remind ourselves of a few further facts:

- The first refugee waves into Europe came from Afganistan and then
  Iraq.

- The second refugee wave into Europe came from Libya. Until Qaddafi's
  murder at the hands of Hillary "We came, we saw, he died" Clinton,
  Libya essentially "captured" a lot of African refugees (look how many
  CIA ops and USA MIC wars are going on in Africa), and Libya provided a
  lot of employment, hope, accomodation and, relatively speaking,
  stability.  Look at the immigration of actual refugees into Europe
  since Libya was "democratically liberated" by the West (USA, France,
  Germany, UK).

- Only the third wave comes from Syria, and this wave of refugees into
  Europe from Syria began --way-- before Russia went into Syria to
  rescue her ally, only in November/December last year (Hint: 2015)!

  And this third wave has predominantly been from Turkey, not Syria -
  and Erdogan used it as blackmail for a few billion $Euro from Germany
  - many times Erdogan was blackmailing in fact. Turkey to Lesbos (Greek
  island) has been a main conduit for Syrian, Iraqi and Afghani
  refugees, for one example.



If you look at the media though, you see a different story (the lie that
is), you see all this "ooh, so much Muslim refugees into Europe, since
BAD RUSSIA went to defend Syria!"



> and they ARE mixed in with the refugee population,
> and they HAVE terrorized those refugees to not talk, and IF Erdogan
> doesn't get a BIG part of the Syrian Partition pie... Selah...

Since you seem to know details about Erdogan's deals with Russia,
perhaps you care to share them with the rest of us?