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[ih] This has been asked before but - when & how did the us government define the Internet
- Subject: [ih] This has been asked before but - when & how did the us government define the Internet
- From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie)
- Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 21:46:34 -0400
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To me, by definition, anything that is not addressable end to end across
the Internet is not "on" the Internet. NAT or no NAT.
joly
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 9:28 PM Jack Haverty via Internet-history <
internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> Interesting... By that definition, requiring a "globally unique address
> space", I wonder what fraction of the thing-that-we-call-Internet is
> actually part of The Internet.
>
> E.g., I have quite a few devices in my house, all using TCP/IP, with
> addresses 192.168.xx.xx, and you probably have some too. My address
> space is not globally unique, so I guess all of my stuff isn't part of
> The Internet?
>
> Similarly, back in the 90s I was involved in running a large corporate
> intranet, and we used the whole IP address space to structure our
> addresses inside, with only a few machines that allowed certain traffic
> (Email, Web, etc.) to pass to and from the rest of The Internet. I
> suspect a lot of other organizations did the same, so they don't fit
> into a globally unique address space either.
>
> I wonder how many such situations exist today - e.g., how server farms,
> end-user ISPs, etc. approach the address space issue, and if they're
> really part of the unique global address space of the Internet by that
> definition.
>
> /Jack Haverty
>
> On 4/3/20 5:19 PM, Steven G. Huter via Internet-history wrote:
> > https://www.nitrd.gov/fnc/internet_res.pdf
> >
> > steve
> >
> > On Fri, 3 Apr 2020, vinton cerf via Internet-history wrote:
> >
> >> I believe it was the Federal Networking Council that issued the
> >> definition
> >> v
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:43 PM Scott O. Bradner via Internet-history <
> >> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I recall that some part of the us government defined the Internet as
> >>> interconnected networks running tcp/ip - maybe the NRC?
> >>>
> >>> Anyway - it would help me in a paper I?m writing to be able to
> >>> reference a
> >>> document where that is stated
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> Scott
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