Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

[trelane at trelane.net (Andrew D Kirch)]

Considering the years of abuse, DNSBL listings, ROKSO listings, further 
abuse, and silence at the abuse switch, I _CERTAINLY_ would not send 
Atrivo abuse reports, I would send them to the upstreams instead.  
Considering the almost 40 page white paper produced last month on the 
abuse from Atrivo, for me to change this practice, I would require:
     * a rapid, and verifiable response from Atrivo here over some 
period of time exceeding several months, and continuing thereafter,
     * the clearing of SBL/ROKSO records, and
     * a general reduction of abuse eminating from Atrivo.

Andrew


Emil Kacperski wrote:
> Matt,
>
> Don't believe everything you read.  I have unfortunately been a target over the years
> because I rented machines to Esthost.  But the stories made up are way out there.
> It's all very easy a dedicated server / customer relationship - nothing more.
>
> Never did I ignore anymore from the abuse community.  Go ahead and find me
> a IP address that did any spam or anything.  You won't find it, I can't remember
> the last time I got any Spamcop complaints.  Not even going to mention Spamhaus
> because we all know there abuse.
>
> "We asked a handful of Intercage's most vocal critics if they sent take
> down requests to Kacperski. None said yes. "In his defense, what may
> have finally happened is that malware researchers stopped bothering to
> report" abusive sites," Eckelberry says."
>
> None said YES!  That pretty much sums it all up.  Maybe I could of reached out
> more, I guess that was my mistake.  But it surely is impossible to deal with if
> you have to deal with people like John Reid.
>
> Thanks!  
>
> Contact: Emil Kacperski
>
> Company: Intercage Inc. - Atrivo
>
>          Dedicated Servers
>
>          San Francisco Datacenter
>
> E-Mail:  emil at intercage.com
>
> Phone:   925-550-3947
>
> ICQ:     23531098
>
>
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