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do ISPs keep track of end-user IP changes within thier network?
While I'm also not an attorney, my reading of 18 USC 2703 leads me to
believe that records need only to be preserved for 180 days if a
governmental entity (i.e. law enforcement agency, regulatory body,
prosecutors office, etc) makes a request that such records be preserved. To
the best of my knowledge, there's no statue on the books (at least at a
federal level) which would mandate that a provider keep any records
relating to dynamic IP allocations.
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Jake Mertel
Nobis Technology Group, LLC
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On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:07 AM, R. Scott Evans <nanog at rsle.net> wrote:
> I'm no lawyer but in the U.S., 18 USC 2703 appears to indicate this data
> must be kept for at least 180 days.
>
> -Scott
>
>
> On 12/12/13 06:34, Sam Moats wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure about the current state of the industry it's been a while
>> since I was responsible for an access network. In the past we would keep
>> radius logs for about 4 months, these would include the username,IP
>> address and yes (to date myself) the caller id of the customer at the
>> time.
>>
>> Sam Moats
>>
>> On 2013-12-12 03:49, Ray Wong wrote:
>>
>>> been a while, but seems like lately it's more a question of how long.
>>> ISPs
>>> can be in position where they need to, but as things have consolidated,
>>> seems like they'd really like to forget it as soon as they can. If you've
>>> got a specific case in mind, likely best to find a direct contact and
>>> get a
>>> response about policy, even if it has to be off-record. The big ones
>>> (like
>>> one I likely shouldn't mention by name unless they do as I don't work for
>>> them) definitely do, at least long enough to handle DMCA requests and
>>> other
>>> legal obligations.
>>>
>>> -R>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson
>>> <swmike at swm.pp.se>wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 11 Dec 2013, Carlos Kamtha wrote:
>>>>
>>>> just a general curiousity question. it's been a long time since ive
>>>>
>>>>> worked at an ISP.
>>>>>
>>>>> back then it was non-expiring DHCP leases and in some cases static
>>>>> IP for
>>>>> all.. (yes it was long ago..)
>>>>>
>>>>> Any feedback would be greatly appreciated..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, it's very common to keep track of what user account/line had
>>>> what IP
>>>> at what time.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike at swm.pp.se
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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