The Making of a Router

[wbailey at satelliteintelligencegroup.com (Warren Bailey)]

At the very least, could we fight about something worthwhile? I?m all for
a good fight, and I?m the first one to trigger the nuclear explosion.. But
the subject matter of this peepee competition is tiring. I query the nanog
gods frequently, sometimes you get useful feedback and sometimes you get a
bunch of haters trying to piss on your parade. There is probably some
validity on both sides, but a Friday night email fight should be reserved
for those email blacklist douchebags.. Arguing over DIY routers being
shittier than radical COTS equipment can be done off list. It?s supposed
to be Christmas.. Have a coke and a smile and STFU if you aren?t going to
add some value.

I can?t wait for this thread to fan back up on Monday morning when the
normal(er) people read this.

The first rule of fight club is.. You don?t talk about fight club.

On 12/27/13, 8:58 PM, "Shawn Wilson" <ag4ve.us at gmail.com> wrote:

>This has gotten a bit ridiculous.
>
>I was hoping someone could give technical insight into why this is good
>or not and not just "buy a box branded as a router because I said so or
>your business will fail". I'm all for hearing about the business theory
>of running an ISP (not my background or day job) but didn't think that's
>what the OP was asking about (and it didn't seem they were taking
>business suggestions very well anyway).
>
>This thread started cool and about 10 posts in, started sucking.
>
>Warren Bailey <wbailey at satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:
>>I propose cage fighting at the next NANOG summit.
>>
>>
>>Sent from my Mobile Device.
>>
>>
>>-------- Original message --------
>>From: Randy Bush <randy at psg.com>
>>Date: 12/27/2013 7:07 PM (GMT-09:00)
>>To: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu
>>Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog at nanog.org>
>>Subject: Re: The Making of a Router
>>
>>
>>> Right.  And the point that others are trying to make clear is that if
>>> that $100K is half your capitalization, you have $200K - and that's
>>> nowhere near enought to cover all the stuff you're going to hit
>>> starting an ISP.  (Hint - what's your projected burn rate for the
>>> first two months of business?)
>>
>>not to worry.  growth is not going to be an issue doing openflow due to
>>today's tcam limits.
>