Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

[Bob.Watson at wwt.com (Watson, Bob)]

Carrier oem churn (turnover /agitation cycles)
First mover for features happen and leapfrog but the ones that matter get adopted across the line in time.  


> On May 7, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Josh Reynolds <josh at spitwspots.com> wrote:
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> What churn rates are you talking about?
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> Josh Reynolds
> CIO, SPITwSPOTS
> www.spitwspots.com
> 
>> On 05/07/2015 05:36 PM, Watson, Bob wrote:
>> Many of these churn rates result from problems  self inflicted hence all the dramatic sdn promises, popularity in abstractions, Api all the things, let's go yang/netconf and retrofit every ietf standard.  There's benefits  but gotta rant a little. What's better than correct? Well over correct of course.
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>>> On May 7, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Josh Reynolds <josh at spitwspots.com> wrote:
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>>> You know where these people wouldn't fit? W/ISPs.
>>> 
>>> Every three years or so you are forklifting the majority of your wireless PtMP for either a new series or a totally different vendor. New backhaul vendors often. You're building AC and DC power plants. You likely touch Cisco, juniper, HP, mikrotik, ubiquiti, Linux, windows, *BSD/pfsense, lucent, accedian/ciena, etc due to various client and network requirements all in the same week, AND you have to make them work together nicely :)
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>>> It's not the environment for somebody like that, and I truly don't understand how people of that.. "caliber" end up working on large scale WANs and global transit networks.
>>> 
>>> Frankly, it scares me a bit.
>>> 
>>>> On May 7, 2015 9:07:35 AM AKDT, Craig <cvuljanic at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> we do "cry" when we interview people that claim to have "advanced
>>>> knowledge" of BGP and we ask them some very basic BGP questions, and we
>>>> get
>>>> a blank stare.....
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Rob Seastrom <rs at seastrom.com> wrote:
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>>>>> Josh Reynolds <josh at spitwspots.com> writes:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so
>>>>>> worried about a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one
>>>>>> thing about the big vendors that bothers me, it's that these
>>>>>> batteries of vendor specific tests have allowed many "techs" to get
>>>>>> lazy. They simply can't seem to operate well, if at all, in a
>>>>>> non-Cisco (primarily) environment.
>>>>> If that bothers you, I recommend you not look at what passes for a
>>>>> "system administrator" these days.  It will make you cry.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -r
>>> -- 
>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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