Peering with abusers...good or bad?

[bryan at shout.net (Bryan Holloway)]

On 3/2/18 5:29 PM, Ca By wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 2:13 PM Matthew Petach <mpetach at netflight.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 4:13 PM, Dan Hollis <goemon at sasami.anime.net>
>> wrote:
>>> OVH does not suprise me in the least.
>>>
>>> Maybe this is finally what it will take to get people to de-peer them.
>>>
>>
>> If I de-peer them, I pay my upstream to carry the
>> attack traffic.
>>
> 
> Your isp will do rtbh
> 
> Your peers wont


Some public IXs support RTBH ... Equinix, DE-CIX, to name two ... PNIs 
is a different story.

> 
>> If I maintain peering with them, the attack traffic is free.
>>
>> It would seem the economics work the other way around.
>>
>> It would be more cost effective for me to identify the largest sources
>> of attacks, and reach out to directly peer with them, to avoid paying
>> an upstream to carry the traffic, if I'm going to end up throwing it
>> away anyhow.
>>