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[jcurran at arin.net (John Curran)]

On 31 Jul 2019, at 5:31 PM, Scott Christopher <sc at ottie.org<mailto:sc at ottie.org>> wrote:

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What I have been saying is that, if ARIN did something so brazen as to revoke Amazon's resources because of some bounced PoC emails, the impact would be *dramatic* and likely lead to the end of ARIN. Just think about this for a minute. :) Obviously this will not happen because ARIN is so righteously competent. :)

Scott -

ARIN revokes resources because of other administrative matters (e.g. not paying oneâ??s ARIN fees), and while there is obviously quite a bit of process and notice to avoid this if all possible, we do indeed revoke and networks go down as a result.    <https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/returns/#revocation

(This isnâ??t much different that what happens when an organization fails to renew their organizational domain name and then disappears from the net â?? failure to follow contractual terms results in consequences sometimes rather dramatic, and itâ??s not the registryâ??s fault nor is there meaningful legal recourse for halfwitted self-inflicted harmâ?¦)

If the community passes a new policy that makes clear that ARIN is to exercise contractual authority for violations of that policy, then we will establish a similar set of processes (with appropriate notice provisions) and then implement.

As I have noted previously, I have zero doubt in the enforceability of the ARIN registration services agreements in this regard â?? so please carefully consider proposed policy both from the overall community benefit being sought, and from the implications faced as a number resource holder having to comply oneself with the new obligations.

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers


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