Chairman Pai Proposes Mandating STIR/SHAKEN To Combat Robocalls

[bzs at theworld.com (bzs at theworld.com)]

Point taken.

On March 8, 2020 at 15:06 damian at google.com (Damian Menscher) wrote:
 > On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 2:18 PM <bzs at theworld.com> wrote:
 > 
 > 
 >     It's really not analogous to most of the mass attacks on the net
 >     because the entire telco system is built to know who is using it in
 >     great detail.
 > 
 > 
 > You don't think transit providers bill their customers?
 > 
 > The analogy holds surprisingly well.  Any transit provider (or other ISP) could
 > trivially identify their customers who are launching spoofed attacks, simply by
 > looking for a high volume of SYN packets, or a high diversity of source ASNs,
 > or several other signals.  But instead they pretend it's "hard", just as the
 > telcos do.  In reality, the only thing that's hard about it is the policy
 > decision of turning away money.
 > 
 > Damian
 > 
 > 
 >     Have you ever made a billable call and *not* been billed for it?
 > 
 >     If you're getting the same "Hi, this is <NAME> from card holder
 >     services" calls like everyone else, or auto warranty etc etc etc, that
 >     means they're making millions of calls per day, possibly hundreds of
 >     millions...per day.
 > 
 >     No one makes many millions of voice calls without paying the telcos.
 > 
 >     If you don't believe me try it. You'll have a swat team at your home
 >     or office (or possibly a telco sales person) probably after just
 >     hundreds of calls and you'll be blocked, shut down.
 > 
 >     The telcos are making a lot of money on these calls.
 > 
 >     They know exactly who is making them because they know exactly who
 >     they're sending that bill to and their payment history.
 > 
 >     Which primarily leaves the question of why this Kabuki theater by the
 >     FCC et al pretending as if it's some vast, uncontrollable evil like
 >     the corona virus etc.?
 > 
 >     --
 >     Â  Â  Â  Â  -Barry Shein
 > 
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