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It's not about the congestion, it's about the profit motive driving the industry

Subject: It's not about the congestion, it's about the profit motive driving the industry
From: Jason_Livingood at comcast.com (Livingood, Jason)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2020 15:13:37 +0000
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> Internet congestion is a symptom, not the cause of this thread.

[JL] I'm wondering if one of the issues is problems with legacy TCP congestion control algorithms. The industry has been poking at that for awhile and approaches range from BBR to fq_codel. This is worth exploring a bit more IMO.

References:
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- COVID-19 vs. our Networks
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- COVID-19 vs. our Networks
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- COVID-19 vs. our Networks
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- COVID-19 vs. our Networks
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- COVID-19 vs. our Networks
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- COVID-19 vs. our Networks
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- COVID-19 vs. our Networks
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- COVID-19 vs. our Networks
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- COVID-19 vs. our Networks
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- COVID-19 vs. our Networks
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- COVID-19 vs. our Networks
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  - From: mikebolitho at gmail.com (Mike Bolitho)
- It's not about the congestion, it's about the profit motive driving the industry
  - From: mpetach at netflight.com (Matthew Petach)

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