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Jeff

On Sun, 2004-12-19 at 21:12, Dow Hurst wrote:
> I agree with Bob on recommending SuSE.  I've never had a box get screwed 
> up by updates from SuSE but have with RHEL.  Also, there is white box 
> linux that is RHEL without the Redhat proprietary stuff.  Then you can 
> install apt and use dag's repository and kde-redhat to update.  If your 
> project requires "quality support" at a high level, then I'd compensate 
> for the lessened code review on FC3 by using test server and client 
> boxes to apply updates before rolling out to production.  I've been 
> using my own workstation as a test box for updates from RedHat just in 
> case of a problem(it's a Dell RHEL3 box).  I have more confidence in 
> SuSE than in Redhat for quality patching.  It may be that Redhat tries 
> to support more bleeding edge hardware and SuSE waits around for the 
> next major release for that, I don't know.  I haven't forgotten the 
> glibc update that hosed my box last year.  I was lucky to get it working 
> without losing the filesystem and never want to repeat that scenario.
> Dow
> 
> 
> Bob Toxen wrote:
> 
> >It appears that Fedora does not do the QC and Regression Testing that
> >"commercial" Distros do and so some consider it unsuitable for Production
> >environments.
> >
> >I recommend Slackware, Mandrake, or SuSE to my clients, depending on
> >requirements.
> >
> >Bob Toxen
> >bob at verysecurelinux.com               [Please use for email to me]
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&gt; &gt;On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 01:08:15PM -0500, Jerald Sheets wrote:
&gt; &gt;  
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;Yes.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;RHEL is a commercial project, with licenses and the whole software company
&gt; &gt;&gt;thing.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;FC is a &quot;bleeding edge&quot; project, with the latest and greatest (and
&gt; &gt;&gt;unstablest....is that a word?)  stuff in it.  You *can*, however, do regular
&gt; &gt;&gt;updates through apt-rpm and yum.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;I'm using FC2 &amp; 3 in production, becase if it came down to it, I could
&gt; &gt;&gt;update what I have to whatever version I want...no troubles.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
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&gt; &gt;&gt;
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&gt; &gt;&gt;From: ale-bounces at ale.org [<a  rel="nofollow" href="mailto:ale-bounces";>mailto:ale-bounces</a> at ale.org] On Behalf Of Greg
&gt; &gt;&gt;Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:16 AM
&gt; &gt;&gt;To: ALE
&gt; &gt;&gt;Subject: [ale] Question on Current Red Hat Update Policies
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;I abandoned RH for my home use when they let go of the home user market and
&gt; &gt;&gt;now I am faced with having to use them for a project.  I have downloaded
&gt; &gt;&gt;RHEL 3 and Fedora Core 3 and was wondering if one needs to buy a
&gt; &gt;&gt;subscription to update RHEL or not.  I was also wondering what (if any)
&gt; &gt;&gt;differences there are between RHEL and FC besides the official RH company
&gt; &gt;&gt;support for RHEL.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;TIA,
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;Greg
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