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- <li><em>date</em>: Sun Dec 19 21:44:59 2004</li>
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Jeff Hubbs wrote:
>I've been running FC2 on my primary desktop system in replacement of a
>Mandrake 10.0 installation that was getting a little long in the tooth
>and the FC2 isn't staying. I don't care for the Red-Hatization of KDE
>and I've had continued problems with my parallel-port scanner. I have
>persistent problems accessing Samba shares that result in app lockups.
>I'm not sure if I'll go back to Mandrake or not. I work with Gentoo
>more than anything else but it's a big feature-by-feature hassle to get
>Gentoo machines up to a good desktop working state. It's almost worth
>it to get "out of the box" no-nonsense KDE behavior.
>
>Jeff
>
>On Sun, 2004-12-19 at 21:12, Dow Hurst wrote:
>
>
>>I agree with Bob on recommending SuSE. I've never had a box get screwed
>>up by updates from SuSE but have with RHEL. Also, there is white box
>>linux that is RHEL without the Redhat proprietary stuff. Then you can
>>install apt and use dag's repository and kde-redhat to update. If your
>>project requires "quality support" at a high level, then I'd compensate
>>for the lessened code review on FC3 by using test server and client
>>boxes to apply updates before rolling out to production. I've been
>>using my own workstation as a test box for updates from RedHat just in
>>case of a problem(it's a Dell RHEL3 box). I have more confidence in
>>SuSE than in Redhat for quality patching. It may be that Redhat tries
>>to support more bleeding edge hardware and SuSE waits around for the
>>next major release for that, I don't know. I haven't forgotten the
>>glibc update that hosed my box last year. I was lucky to get it working
>>without losing the filesystem and never want to repeat that scenario.
>>Dow
>>
>>
>>Bob Toxen wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>It appears that Fedora does not do the QC and Regression Testing that
>>>"commercial" Distros do and so some consider it unsuitable for Production
>>>environments.
>>>
>>>I recommend Slackware, Mandrake, or SuSE to my clients, depending on
>>>requirements.
>>>
>>>Bob Toxen
>>>bob at verysecurelinux.com [Please use for email to me]
>>><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.verysecurelinux.com";>http://www.verysecurelinux.com</a> [Network&Linux/Unix security consulting]
>>><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.realworldlinuxsecurity.com";>http://www.realworldlinuxsecurity.com</a> [My book:"Real World Linux Security 2/e"]
>>>Quality Linux & UNIX security and SysAdmin & software consulting since 1990.
>>>
>>>"Microsoft: Unsafe at any clock speed!"
>>> -- Bob Toxen 10/03/2002
>>>
>>>On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 01:08:15PM -0500, Jerald Sheets wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Yes.
>>>>
>>>>RHEL is a commercial project, with licenses and the whole software company
>>>>thing.
>>>>
>>>>FC is a "bleeding edge" project, with the latest and greatest (and
>>>>unstablest....is that a word?) stuff in it. You *can*, however, do regular
>>>>updates through apt-rpm and yum.
>>>>
>>>>I'm using FC2 & 3 in production, becase if it came down to it, I could
>>>>update what I have to whatever version I want...no troubles.
>>>>
>>>>Jerald M. Sheets jr.
>>>>Sr. UNIX Systems Administrator
>>>>(404) 293-8762
>>>>**********
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>su -
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Password:
>>>># cat /dev/flood > /dev/earth
>>>># rdev noah+beasts
>>>># dd if=noah+beasts of=/dev/earth
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: ale-bounces at ale.org [<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:ale-bounces";>mailto:ale-bounces</a> at ale.org] On Behalf Of Greg
>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:16 AM
>>>>To: ALE
>>>>Subject: [ale] Question on Current Red Hat Update Policies
>>>>
>>>>I abandoned RH for my home use when they let go of the home user market and
>>>>now I am faced with having to use them for a project. I have downloaded
>>>>RHEL 3 and Fedora Core 3 and was wondering if one needs to buy a
>>>>subscription to update RHEL or not. I was also wondering what (if any)
>>>>differences there are between RHEL and FC besides the official RH company
>>>>support for RHEL.
>>>>
>>>>TIA,
>>>>
>>>>Greg
>>>>
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