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> I must agree completely about power supplies. They are my least
> favorite component to troubleshoot. Sometimes they go swiftly and
> other times it's an incredibly intermittent problem that causes a
> myriad of misleading symptoms. Blah.. ;)
>
> J. D.
>
> On 10/23/05, *James P. Kinney III* <jkinney at localnetsolutions.com
> <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:jkinney";>mailto:jkinney</a> at localnetsolutions.com>> wrote:
>
> Ah ,hardware. If I recall, the hard drive choked on that syustem that
> was running 7.1. I suspect that a reinstall of 7.1 will still not
> allow
> compilations. A board level voltage spike caused by a dying power
> supply
> can damage RAM in subtle ways while cooking other parts like hard
> drives.
>
> It's VERY frustrating to realize that the one component that can kill
> everything in the system is being produced to lower and lower
> lifetime
> expectancy standards. Some of my older equipment is running just fine
> after 7-8 years of daily use while some of the newer stuff is good for
> 1-2 years tops. Most of the system failures I have seen in the past 3
> years have been caused by an intermittent power supply issue. Poor
> quality analog components like capacitors and choke coils are to blame
> for the vast majority of the crappy power supplies that have broken my
> and my clients stuff.
>
> It doesn't help that everyone wants to "save money" so the power
> supply
> installed is the smallest capable of just running the box as
> shipped. So
> add a DVD burner to that old system and play Russian Roulette with
> your
> hard drive. Power supply makers rate their device to the absolute
> maximum it could possible put out assuming all the components are
> fully
> up to spec and the bean counters didn't by a bargain that "fell of
> the
> truck". The sad reality is power supplies don't put out what their
> label
> says except for a very brief test time.
>
> So I size up my power supply to provide full power for every device
> running at maximum and still have at least a 30% overhead before the
> labeled rating is hit. I would much prefer a 50% overhead but newer
> systems are already such power hogs I can't get a 2kw internal power
> supply!
>
>
> </rant>
>
> On Sun, 2005-10-23 at 16:42 -0400, Bob Kruger wrote:
> > James;
> >
> > I have pretty much decided that the problem is hardware induced. I
> > just pulled the HD with the Slack 10.2 distro in it, put it in
> another
> > machine, and I can compile to my heart's content. The old
> motherboard
> > had no problems with Slack 7.1 - it peacefully ran for four years.
> > But, it will not peacefully coexist with Slack 10.2. Its time has
> > come and gone.
> >
> > Thanks all who wrote back.
> >
> > V/r
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > James P. Kinney III wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2005-10-23 at 15:32 -0400, Bob Kruger wrote:
> > >
> > > > Christopher;
> > > >
> > > > Fair enough. The three shown here are "segmentation
> faults" Here are
> > > > some snippets. Firstly, compiling samba 3.0.22b:
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'm not running slack 10.2. Nor have I had compilation issues
> with the
> > > slack machines I do have.
> > >
> > > However, I have seen seg faults during compiles. 2 were memory
> faults
> > > (RAM was bad in ways that only a compiler would find or
> memtest86) and 2
> > > were bad applications configures. On one of the bad app
> configs, I had
> > > to do a lot more than just ./configure; make; make install.
> There were a
> > > bunch of settings I had to tweak.
> > >
> > > Samba, MySQL and PHP are monster applications that usually
> need much
> > > more than the vanilla ./configure to make correctly.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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